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  • bigdunny1
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    #71
    Originally posted by PensionKiller
    If I know that the meat in my country has caused multiple drug tests on athletes to fail, then surely I would use some common sense and avoid it...
    Easier said then done. Unless you are refusing to eat any meat period and just import all meat from another country no way to be 100% sure. You would have to stay 24/7 at the farms and slaightethouses to ensure none were contaminated and not eat at any restaurants. The NFL players who went there on vacation stayed at nice hotels and ate only at restaurants even had all his receipts to prove it and still tested positive. NFL and all the drug testing agencies said his levels just like canelo levels were low and consistent with food contamination studies. Only prevention NFL told it's players is if you do got to Mexico for a reason don't eat their meat.

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    • oscar9992
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      #72
      Cycling organizations know a lot about PEDS, they always ban sportsmen who gets caugh.

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      • GGG Gloveking
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        #73
        Originally posted by bigdunny1
        Easier said then done. Unless you are refusing to eat any meat period and just import all meat from another country no way to be 100% sure. You would have to stay 24/7 at the farms and slaightethouses to ensure none were contaminated and not eat at any restaurants. The NFL players who went there on vacation stayed at nice hotels and ate only at restaurants even had all his receipts to prove it and still tested positive. NFL and all the drug testing agencies said his levels just like canelo levels were low and consistent with food contamination studies. Only prevention NFL told it's players is if you do got to Mexico for a reason don't eat their meat.
        You could do all that, or....


        You can simply avoid red meat in Mexico.

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        • PensionKiller
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          #74
          Originally posted by bigdunny1
          Easier said then done. Unless you are refusing to eat any meat period and just import all meat from another country no way to be 100% sure. You would have to stay 24/7 at the farms and slaightethouses to ensure none were contaminated and not eat at any restaurants. The NFL players who went there on vacation stayed at nice hotels and ate only at restaurants even had all his receipts to prove it and still tested positive. NFL and all the drug testing agencies said his levels just like canelo levels were low and consistent with food contamination studies. Only prevention NFL told it's players is if you do got to Mexico for a reason don't eat their meat.
          From my understanding, the chemical is to help the animals grow quicker. I would then source my meat from an organic farm or butcher that doesn't use it. This would not be hard for a millionaire athlete.

          Yes he may be restricted on where he eats, but he is a professional boxer.

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          • bigdunny1
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            #75
            Originally posted by PensionKiller
            From my understanding, the chemical is to help the animals grow quicker. I would then source my meat from an organic farm or butcher that doesn't use it. This would not be hard for a millionaire athlete.

            Yes he may be restricted on where he eats, but he is a professional boxer.
            The problem is the farms are not out there telling the public they use this stuff. The public doesn't know which do and don't nor do the restaurants and butchers who get the meat from the farms and slaughterhouses. Only way they would know is if they send their meat off to lab for testing. Again it sounds easy in hindsight. But it's a real problem in mexico. Sure canelo was probably naive thinking this wouldn't effect him. But he's not the first athlete to come into contact with contaminated meat in Mexico and likely won't be the last. The real solution is its probably time for canelo to move out of Mexico and eat nothing coming from that country. They don't have the standards and regulations to get this problem under control themselves.
            Last edited by bigdunny1; 03-08-2018, 09:07 AM.

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            • TripleJ
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              #76
              He's either a cheat or a massive idiot. People saying it's unrealistic for him to source his meat from reputable places even with his considerable resources and the potential consequences he could face? You can be damn sure that if that much mexican meat had the possibility of giving him something like malaria or salmonella instead he'd have absolutely no problem making sure the meat he ate was quality.

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              • TripleJ
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                #77
                Plus, according to Sanchez a bunch of his handlers are involved in the meat business. You'd think they knew who had reputable farms.

                "Canelo's handlers have*family members who*own butcher shops, Canelo's co-trainer Chepo Reynoso is a former butcher, and the issue of contaminated meat is a well documented problem in the country of Mexico."

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                • BoZz
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1
                  Why are folks comparing cyclist who suspended for failed tests to canelo. lol Its not about the clenbuterol level the issue is those cyclists didn't have a valid excuse for why the substance entered their bodies in the first place canelo and Mexico athletes do. The meat source in Mexico is the factor here. A cyclist testing with small traces but live in the Europe and countries that don't have this in their food. Meanwhile canelo lives in the part of the world that does is why he and other boxers and even NFL player were not penalized. WADA also has case studies of the trace amounts that would exist from eating tainted meat and canelo matches those limits.

                  "As Daniel Eichner, director of [the Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory], the WADA-accredited lab that conducted the tests stated in his letter [Monday], 'These values are all within the range of what is expected from meat contamination.'

                  So ****** to say we'll the cyclist got suspended. No shyt they they don't have a valid excuse for how it got in their system and we're clearly cheating because they don't have tainted meat in europe where they eat and and train. You need to compare canelo levels to folks who ate Mexican tained meat and according to all these experts these are the levels in range for those who did. It's a apples to orange comparison folks are making.
                  Because of that he should of stayed away from meat, it happens more to Mexicans than anyone else, so the logical thing to do would be staying away from the meat.

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                  • bigdunny1
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by BoZz
                    Because of that he should of stayed away from meat, it happens more to Mexicans than anyone else, so the logical thing to do would be staying away from the meat.
                    His team was definitely naive and yes he should of just moved from Mexico because this is a huge problem in that country. I'm guessing going forward he won't eat their meat either import everything from another country or just move from Mexico all togeher.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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