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  • sotgoda
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    #41
    Originally posted by boxxsingh
    AJ will beat Wilder if he decides to box and if Wilder decides to swing wildly mate. Thing is Wilder cannot box but he can hit. AJ can do both.
    I like your confidence. Wish AJ and Eddie were that confident. For me, I don't see AJ beating Wilder anytime in the next 2 - 3 years. I think Wilder's strengths trump and negate what AJ brings to the table. AJ can box and/or hit - he will still lose to Wilder. Hopefully, we get to see the match later this year. You and I can assess the outcome and the whys then.

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    • Shadoww702
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      #42
      Originally posted by Redgloveman
      Klitschko was...



      I'm anything but an AJ nut-hugger, but saying that Klitschko hadn't looked good for years is bulli****. Your point about his inactivity stands, not your suggestion that he was shot by saying he hadn't looked good for years. He dominated Jennings (he lost one out of 12 rounds on the cards) and knocked out Pulev in his two fights prior to Fury (a fight which NO ONE really expected him to lose). He also looked very good against AJ which is why people say his legacy was improved even in defeat.

      It's much more sensible to look at the Fury loss as an anomaly than just discredit him as an opponent because you like Wilder/don't like AJ.

      People on either side of this argument talking about "Ortiz was old though" and "Klitschko was old though" are just getting irritating. Let's just give both AJ and Wilder credit for stepping up. The arguments aren't going to be settled until one of them gets stopped (preferably by the other one)
      Ain't gonna matter what anyone thinks here soon. Unless Parker upsets the apple kart... AJ needs to only worry about him next.

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      • pollywog
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        #43
        Originally posted by Ray*
        If he destroys Parker early then i think the Wilder fight could happen next, if he struggles then i expect Hearn to...
        ... and if he gets knocked out ?

        There's no way he'll destroy Parker, not early and not late.

        If Parker comes out hard and fast looking to knock AJ over early and they get to trading punches, AJ will come off worse.

        Not only can he not take a shot as well as Oilskin, but he'll have been forced to empty the tank and will be vulnerable to Parker late.

        The sight and fear of Oilskin Parker taking AJ's best shots early, and still coming forward will force AJ into robot panic mode, making him easy to pick off, as Parker is the more fundamentally sound boxer with better defensive skills and stamina.

        Most probable outcome is, a home cooked reffing decision over 12 rounds.

        BUT if anyone is going to get knocked out, either early or late, it'll be the Giant glass jawed robot, NOT the Big hearted Samoan warrior.

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        • Mr Objecitivity
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          #44
          Originally posted by pollywog
          ... and if he gets knocked out ?

          There's no way he'll destroy Parker, not early and not late.

          If Parker comes out hard and fast looking to knock AJ over early and they get to trading punches, AJ will come off worse.

          Not only can he not take a shot as well as Oilskin, but he'll have been forced to empty the tank and will be vulnerable to Parker late.

          The sight and fear of Oilskin Parker taking AJ's best shots early, and still coming forward will force AJ into robot panic mode, making him easy to pick off, as Parker is the more fundamentally sound boxer with better defensive skills and stamina.

          Most probable outcome is, a home cooked reffing decision over 12 rounds.

          BUT if anyone is going to get knocked out, either early or late, it'll be the Giant glass jawed robot, NOT the Big hearted Samoan warrior.
          You seem delusional! What makes you think Joseph Parker is much, if at all better than Carlos Takam?

          In what way does Joseph Parker possess better defensive skills, better fundamental boxing skills, better stamina and better punch resistance than Anthony Joshua?

          What makes you think Joseph Parker would have a better chance at 'not getting destroyed' by Anthony Joshua than Dominic Brezeale or Dillian Whyte?

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          • pollywog
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            #45
            Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
            You seem delusional! What makes you think Joseph Parker is much, if at all better than Carlos Takam?

            In what way does Joseph Parker possess better defensive skills, better fundamental boxing skills, better stamina and better punch resistance than Anthony Joshua?

            What makes you think Joseph Parker would have a better chance at 'not getting destroyed' by Anthony Joshua than Dominic Brezeale or Dillian Whyte?
            Parker besting Takam proves he's better!

            Oilskin has been boxing since age 4 so has a deeper grounding in fundamentals.

            He's gone the distance regularly and rarely gasses suggesting greater stamina.

            He's weathered all storms from all comers proving great defense to do so.

            He's never been put down...EVER!!! Meaning better punch residence and more durable chin.

            He's defending a world title, so has more to lose than breezy and the villain, thus extra motivation.

            He's NEVER been destroyed by anyone and AJ is vastly overrated, while Parker is vastly underrated.

            If ever there was a recipe for an upset to deluded AJ fanboys, look no further than...

            Joseph OILSKIN Parker... a big hearted, humble, skilled 25 yr old Samoan warrior.

            AJ has never faced anyone, let alone another YOUNGER champion who is in nearly every way his equal, but in some ways his better.

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            • Ray*
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              #46
              Originally posted by pollywog
              ... and if he gets knocked out ?
              Then it delays a Wilder fight, and a rematch would happened. I don’t think you would see any of my post where I have disregard Parker. It wouldn’t shock me if he wins.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr Objecitivity
                what makes you think Joseph Parker would have a better chance at 'not getting destroyed' by Anthony Joshua than Dominic Brezeale or Dillian Whyte?
                Let's take AJ's last 2 fights.

                He got dropped by an inactive 40yr old ex champ who ran out of puff and couldn't put him away when he had the chance.

                That won't happen with Parker !

                Next fight, he struggles to put away, Takam, a fighter who only had 2 weeks notice and took everything AJ could fire with the fight being controversially stopped before the championship rounds.

                Oilskin has a no expense spared full camp to prepare and also beat Takam over the distance.

                There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to suggest AJ will destroy Parker or knock him out.

                There's every probability the powers that be, inclusive of home cooked refs, will help AJ in every way to get the win and keep laying the golden eggs on a trail to the windmill's doorstep .

                Team Parker know this and know their best shot is to knock AJ over, which is exactly what they are looking to do.

                AJ is vulnerable to Parkers style. He knows this and knows Parker isn't intimidated by him or will be underdone.AJ knows Parker can light him up. The question is...

                Is AJ good enough to do anything about it?

                I don't think so!

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                • pollywog
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Then it delays a Wilder fight, and a rematch would happened. I don’t think you would see any of my post where I have disregard Parker. It wouldn’t shock me if he wins.
                  Best thing AJ could do then is...

                  THROW THE FIGHT!!!

                  Double down on the easy money from a guaranteed oilskin rematch and let Wilder marinate in the bitter juices of impending old age.

                  It would shock me if Oilskin won by decision

                  Would it shock you if Parker knocked AJ out?

                  It wouldn't me!

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                  • Sheldon312
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                    #49
                    People forget that in some fights Wilder clearly gets outboxed. Let's take the Spilka, Ortiz, and Washington fights for example, Wilder basically lost every round leading to the KO. These guys are a lot smaller and less physically stronger than a guy like AJ. AJ will not let Wilder off the hook if he gets him hurt and let's not forget that there is a wide skill disparity between the tow. I wouldn't be surprised if this fight resembles the Crawford vs Indongo where an extremely flawed fighter loses to the much more skilled and younger fighter.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by pollywog
                      Best thing AJ could do then is...

                      THROW THE FIGHT!!!

                      Double down on the easy money from a guaranteed oilskin rematch and let Wilder marinate in the bitter juices of impending old age.

                      It would shock me if Oilskin won by decision

                      Would it shock you if Parker knocked AJ out?

                      It wouldn't me!
                      Like I pointed out it wouldn’t shock me if Parker wins, am not one of those fan boys. Nothing in boxing should shock you. But I agree anyone getting a decision over Joshua would probably have to KD like 3/4 times before they get a decision.

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