Banning drug cheat Neloterol will become a very good example for the sport of boxing

[Elroy The Great]

wow, look at the child. go to bed. 😂😂

aw, only you can play the name calling game

[sugar ray lenrd]

Elroy:
yeah, faster = better ?!?!?
''well, yeah if your stressing for time.''

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
No, It doesn't work that way. There is no stressing for time. There is an agreement, a signed contract that each fighter will come in & weigh up to the weight limit on an agreed upon date. Normally it takes 5-7 weeks to prepare for a fight. There should be no stressing for time. This is professional boxing & it has it's rules & regulations & laws to abide with. If you want to ignore it....then go watch UFC, MMA & or WWE.

Elroy:
missing weight is not really at an epidemic stage. WTF.
as for retaining muscle mass...again, bfd. at a certain level, dudes dont get ko'd.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Not sure what your at here. But many fighters are not making weight lately, making weight is part of the sport, not making weight is unprofessional & goes against the integrity of the sport. Coincidentally it seems now we understand why these guys aren't making weight.

And you wrote: "as for muscle mass
Big forking deal"
Well it don't go that way...IT IS A BIG FORKING DEAL! And fighters do get Ko at this level. Ok, lets get to the point, if GGG busted his ass training hard, dieting cutting weight, naturally he loses muscle mass. Canelo on the other hand is taking substances that will assist him to lose weight but it will also enhance & maintain muscle mass & help endurance. The substance that was found is illegal, it's against the rules & regulations. Therefore he's been suspended. Again these are rhe rules & he was busted.

Elroy:
if only witch hunters spent 1/2 the time watching roids in action than blindly supporting the ban, theyd see how foolish theyve been...JIM !

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
There is no witch hunters here, people support the ban because illegal substances are wrong. These are humans here in a combative sport. And as a former fighter & now trainer, I care about the well beings of all fighters, even the opposing ones to my guys. Why do anyone needs to use roids for? It seems those who use it aren't sure of themselves & their ability. The only foolish one here is you. Question?what's your point?

He's hurt Merv....now back to the studio...JIM!

[Elroy The Great]

Elroy:
yeah, faster = better ?!?!?
''well, yeah if your stressing for time.''

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
No, It doesn't work that way. There is no stressing for time. There is an agreement, a signed contract that each fighter will come in & weigh up to the weight limit on an agreed upon date. Normally it takes 5-7 weeks to prepare for a fight. There should be no stressing for time. This is professional boxing & it has it's rules & regulations & laws to abide with. If you want to ignore it....then go watch UFC, MMA & or WWE.

Elroy:
missing weight is not really at an epidemic stage. WTF.
as for retaining muscle mass...again, bfd. at a certain level, dudes dont get ko'd.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Not sure what your at here. But many fighters are not making weight lately, making weight is part of the sport, not making weight is unprofessional & goes against the integrity of the sport. Coincidentally it seems now we understand why these guys aren't making weight.

And you wrote: "as for muscle mass
Big forking deal"
Well it don't go that way...IT IS A BIG FORKING DEAL! And fighters do get Ko at this level. Ok, lets get to the point, if GGG busted his ass training hard, dieting cutting weight, naturally he loses muscle mass. Canelo on the other hand is taking substances that will assist him to lose weight but it will also enhance & maintain muscle mass & help endurance. The substance that was found is illegal, it's against the rules & regulations. Therefore he's been suspended. Again these are rhe rules & he was busted.

Elroy:
if only witch hunters spent 1/2 the time watching roids in action than blindly supporting the ban, theyd see how foolish theyve been...JIM !

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
There is no witch hunters here, people support the ban because illegal substances are wrong. These are humans here in a combative sport. And as a former fighter & now trainer, I care about the well beings of all fighters, even the opposing ones to my guys. Why do anyone needs to use roids for? It seems those who use it aren't sure of themselves & their ability. The only foolish one here is you. Question?what's your point?

He's hurt Merv....now back to the studio...JIM!

dat quote button miss, doe....

1) if time isnt spent wisely, it can be stressful.
2) people miss weight for more than one reason....mainly because they outgrew the div...by less than a lb
3) lets not deal in if's when we can SEE THE REAL THING !
4) now all the concerned masses SHOULD do (but wont) is prove their case. AS WE ARE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW, ACROSS EVERY SPORT, UNREGULATED ROIDS ARENT HARMING ANYONE now picture them regulated

''their well being''

lodry

[Vlad_]

That fake suspension is a poor attempt at damage control by the NSAC, to show their “neutrality” which is total BS. Canelo is clearly protected, so what is the point? He can still continue his training for May 5th...

If Canelo is guilty, suspend him for a year as a first and final warning. If not, then let’s just get on with the fight.

[sugar ray lenrd]

Elroy:
dat quote button miss, doe....

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
We aren't discussing quote buttons...doe

Elroy:
1) if time isnt spent wisely, it can be stressful.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
A professional fighter should know better

Elroy:
2) people miss weight for more than one reason....mainly because they outgrew the div...by less than a lb

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Yes fighters do miss weight for more than one reason, but you must be a professional an make weight, if you can't, move up in weight.

Elroy:
3) lets not deal in if's when we can SEE THE REAL THING !

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Son, if you're going to debate get to the point. Canelo got busted. I'm against any form of steriods & you're for it. There is no ifs...you need to recognize.

Elroy:
4) now all the concerned masses SHOULD do (but wont) is prove their case. AS WE ARE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW, ACROSS EVERY SPORT, UNREGULATED ROIDS ARENT HARMING ANYONE now picture them regulated.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
It's been proven already that's why there baned. There are many natural supplements to take that will do better than steroids....bottom line is your way is not allowed. Sorry dude they aren't regulated. Case closed.

From the studio, Goodnight everyone...JIM!

[Elroy The Great]

Elroy:
dat quote button miss, doe....

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
We aren't discussing quote buttons...doe

Elroy:
1) if time isnt spent wisely, it can be stressful.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
A professional fighter should know better

Elroy:
2) people miss weight for more than one reason....mainly because they outgrew the div...by less than a lb

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Yes fighters do miss weight for more than one reason, but you must be a professional an make weight, if you can't move up in weight.

Elroy:
3) lets not deal in if's when we can SEE THE REAL THING !

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Son, if you're going to debate get to the point. Canelo got busted. I'm against any form of steriods & you're for it. There is no ifs...you need to recognize.

Elroy:
4) now all the concerned masses SHOULD do (but wont) is prove their case. AS WE ARE WITNESSING RIGHT NOW, ACROSS EVERY SPORT, UNREGULATED ROIDS ARENT HARMING ANYONE now picture them regulated.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
It's been proven already that's why there baned. There are many natural supplements to take that will do better than steroids....bottom line is your way is not allowed. Sorry dude they aren't regulated. Case closed.

From the studio, Goodnight everyone...JIM!

another failed, incognito reply, doe

1) but they tend to mess around anyway
2) ONCE AGAIN pros miss weight for more than one, nefarious reason. most of the time, they just got too big.....by 1/2 lb :lol: !
3) id disown you if you were a parent of mine you dont know why youre against roids (and the like) since theres no proof they do what you claim they do IN AN ACTUAL FIGHT. you just joined the herd.
4) ''youre not allowed to not because science dictates it, we are just weak and skittish like that.''

JIM

[sugar ray lenrd]

Elroy:
another failed, incognito reply, doe :

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
No, I just explained how contracts & agreements are set forward. All your doing is going around in circle.

Elroy:
1) but they tend to mess around anyway

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
So that's your replied regarding making weight? It's wrong, making weight is part of the game. Quigg vs Valdez was all wrong. He breaks the kids jaw cause he was much heavier. What a shame.

Elroy:
2) ONCE AGAIN pros miss weight for more than one, nefarious reason. most of the time, they just got too big.....by 1/2 lb :lol: !

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Your repeating yourself...a lot of guys now a days don't make weight because they have applied too much muscle mass by being roided ro the gills!

Elroy:
3) id disown you if you were a parent of mine you dont know why youre against roids (and the like) since theres no proof they do what you claim they do IN AN ACTUAL FIGHT. you just joined the herd.

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Watch Pacquiao/Marquez III
EVER WONDERED HOW MARQUEZ AT AGE 39 HAD A BODY BUILDERS PHYSIQUE SOMETHING HE NEVER BEFORE ACHIEVED. DO YOU NOT SEE THE SIMILARITIES IN PHYSIQUE TO CANELO? They almost the same body type. Marquez was roided to the gills & that ko of Manny was really bad! That's what happens when you mess w roids. If it wasn't for cheating Canelo nor Marquez would've ever had their body sculptured like that.

Elroy:
4) ''youre not allowed to not because science dictates it, we are just weak and skittish like that.''
JIM[/QUOTE]

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Oh yeah science dictates...yeah....okaaaay....science....(whisper) jim....take it away...we are dealing with a conspiracy theorist....this kid claims he hangout with bigfoot & the Lochness monster....(keep whispering).............
Now back to the studio...JIM!.....
We are experiencing technical difficulty....take it away...MERV!

[Elroy The Great]

between ''MQ'' and ''REPORT' buttons, doe

1) right, cause only heavier guys break jaws. how much did he miss by ? 3 lbs.....all located on his right hand
oh yeah, WHO WON ?!?!?

2) or just got too big. 9/10, roids have nothing to do with a guy missing weight.

3) sooooooooooo...........test results dont mean jack ???? im supposed to watch those fights to see what roids look like, but, witch hunters say WATCHING ACTUAL ROID FIGHTS ARE USELESS AND PROVES NOTHING if that isnt some assbackwards ''logic'' right there !!!!!!!!!!!!!

4) science should lead the way when making decisions on a guys livelihood. or just be a witch hunter and go with assumptions

take it away paulie

[sugar ray lenrd]

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
I don't even care about "mq" & karma buttons.

Elroy:
1) right, cause only heavier guys break jaws. how much did he miss by ? 3 lbs.....all located on his right hand
oh yeah, WHO WON ?!?!?

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
No, I never said that, why are you trying to sway away from the topic? Quigg didn't even attempt to weigh himself a second time. He didn't want to weigh himself in the morning. It seems he might've been 140 lbs in the ring. No you tell me , or better yet you go & research that whole thing with Quigg/Valdez & also do a full research on why Roids, & PEDS are not harmful in boxing...I'm waiting....

Elroy:
2) or just got too big. 9/10, roids have nothing to do with a guy missing weight

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Oh really? Prove it!

Elroy:
4) scienc should lead the way when making decisions on a guys livelihood. ot you just be a witch hunter and go with assumptions

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
By the same way Boxing has to look out for It's athletes well being & making decisions that could affect their LIFE. Assumptions? You're the one bringing up assumptions. Errr I just been inform by NSB that you're a minor & to refrain from converting with you....ok im out .
Oh....send my regards to Bigfoot & The Lochness Monster.

Elroy:
take it away paulie

Sugar Ray Lenrd:
Have a good day everyone, until next time, so long from Merv, Larry, George & yours truly...take away...JIM!!!

[Buckfever]

One guy who gets the timing wrong on cycling off and getting banned, does nothing to clean up the sport, expect make the guys more careful about cycling off sooner.