Joshua v. Wilder is simple

[Robbie Barrett]

Sure buddy... the one who has no clue is you. Unlike you, I know people in the business.

I doubt that very much with how flat out wrong your post was.

[filup79]

I doubt that very much with how flat out wrong your post was.

We'll see when that fight gets made and made in the US.

[Robbie Barrett]

We'll see when that fight gets made and made in the US.

We'll see what?

[Abovetheclouds]

I'm not going to even bother with you, you obviously haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

[Tom Cruise]

lol are we criticising people for post fight interviews that havent even happened yet, NSB?

[The Big Dunn]

Wilders offer was 50/50 or no fight. We got no fight.

They waited for Hearn to do it and then made a ridiculous demand pricing Wilder out.

If Wilder is chasing like you claim why hasn't his team contacted Hearn once to try and make the fight? They know they aren't getting 50/50 so why aren't they making another request?

They don't want the fight.

You can't claim a fighter is avoiding when the offer is so ridiculous nobody in the world expects Joshua to accept it.

You are asking (without actually asking) Wilder's Team to put out a lower number just to appease AJ. You wouldn't do that so don't ask Wilder to.

We agree AJ is the draw and A side. But its silly to think anyone would undervalue themselves.

what pro athlete do you know that comes in with a low contract request offer?
None!! they ask for more than they are worth. They get an offer lower than their worth. then they settle on a number.

So negotiate with yourself without a response from AJ to the 50/50 offer? Seriously Robbie you are just being silly for silly's sake.

No one in their right mind would devalue themselves in that fashion.

No one is asking Aj to accept that offer to prove he wants to fight Wilder. I am saying RESPOND to the offer to show you want the fight.

Same they did with Parker.

Question-why the difference in tactics between Parker and Wilder?

[Abovetheclouds]

AJ is focussing on the UNIFICATION fight he has against Parker end of the month, remember?

[The Big Dunn]

I think there's a power play going on. Wilder needs the fight more than AJ, so Hearn is content to leave the ball in their court and in the process show just where the power lies in this relationship.

Either they make contact, withdraw Wilder's 50/50 demand in favour of something more realistic and in the process show their weakness, or the fight doesn't get made.

That doesn't bother Hearn much because the longer the fight is delayed the greater the return when it happens and the greater the potential for engaging the lucrative US PPV market.

It doesn't affect AJ either, he has plenty of lucrative fights he can pursue. He and Eddie H can and have mapped out a set of fights which take in a mandatory against Povektin, a first look at the US market via Miller and then potentially the most lucrative of them all Fury, whilst Wilder looks on impotently from afar. He can't even be sure of getting the best opposition, because every other HW in the division would drop everything to get a shot at AJ and a career best payday.

Wilder however can't offer them a fifth as much and obviously he's a risk to their careers in the process. Plus he's 32 and can't afford to wait forever as he's unlikely to improve further and indeed may begin to lose the physical edge.

Whereas AJ with 20 fewer pro fights is still learning and is yet to reach his peak. A couple more fights against say Povetkin and Miller may help him hone his skills.

So like I say, a power play. Hearn is waiting for Finkel and Wilder to blink. They're hoping to raise the pressure to get the fight made.

Unless of course there's an agreement behind closed doors and all of this is a pantomime to keep us chatting about it in the run-up to it being announced.

Great post! I agree. I get what AJ is doing. HBO will give him anything to keep him away from SHO and derail their plans for Wilder/Joshua huge fight. Hearn is using that to get some of his guys HBO dates. Coll thats the smart business play.

I just don't like Robbie pretending the offer is what is causing AJ to not fight. Thats ridiculous.

[techliam]

The fight is going to happen

This 'Joshua is ducking Wilder' is embarrassing on the part of the people who think that. Have a good look at yourselves..

Sky have been building this fight up for a while. Wilder beating Ortiz was on the front page of BBC Sport, again highlighting how the British sports media are gearing up for it. Then again, its mostly the uninformed American crowd spewing such things out, in the name of blind and uneducated nationalism.

Wilder should be willing to accept no more than 40%, with the fight taking place at Wembley Stadium. Hearn will be the lead promoter. Whether the fight ends up on HBO or Showtime is up to Hearn, as Wilder does not have enough pull to demand anything beyond a fairly decent split (unless he trades it away for something else)

[Abovetheclouds]

The fight is going to happen

This 'Joshua is ducking Wilder' is embarrassing on the part of the people who think that. Have a good look at yourselves..

Sky have been building this fight up for a while. Wilder beating Ortiz was on the front page of BBC Sport, again highlighting how the British sports media are gearing up for it. Then again, its mostly the uninformed American crowd spewing such things out, in the name of blind and uneducated nationalism.

Wilder should be willing to accept no more than 40%, with the fight taking place at Wembley Stadium. Hearn will be the lead promoter. Whether the fight ends up on HBO or Showtime is up to Hearn, as Wilder does not have enough pull to demand anything beyond a fairly decent split (unless he trades it away for something else)

Nail on the head. Sums this forum up.