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How is he avoiding? Wilder isn't even chasing. The only side that contacted the other was Joshua and Wilder wanted a 50/50 split. Nobody can claim Joshua is ducking with ridiculous demands like that. If Wilder makes a reasonable split request and Joshua walks away then you'll have a case for Joshua ducking, until then it's all Wilder.
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he is avoiding if Hearn hasn't gotten back to Finkel. he is avoiding by making it known he is going to fight Jarrell Miller next. He is avoiding if he signs a network exclusive HBO deal knowing that it would delay the Wilder fight until that deal is up (which again he has every right to take to make as much as possible).
I didn't use the word duck. Finkel made it clear Hearn didn't respond on the possible money the fight would generate. I do agree Wilder shouldn't get a 50/50 split, but he asked for that (as anyone would) and Hearn/ AJ haven't responded IF Finkel is to be believed.
That isn't Wilder.Comment
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Hearn said months ago he ended negotiations because Wilder wanted 50/50. This isn't new.
If Wilder wants the fight why doesn't his team contact Hearn and ask for a reasonable split?
Joshua taking whatever deal he likes in America isn't avoiding. Asking him to make business decisions in hope Wilder finds his nuts is ******ed.
Wilder isn't even signed to Showtime, so it wouldn't be a problem anyway.
UNTIL WILDER MAKES A REASONABLE SPLIT REQUEST THE BLAME IS ON HIM FOR THE FIGHT NOT HAPPENING.Comment
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But why would Wilder give Hearn and AJ a bigger split if the fight is made in the US? IF the fight is made in the UK than it understandable and Wilder has already said he take whatever split is offered only if AJ agrees to the same split if there's rematch after Wilder beats him. A fight in the US makes way more money because Wilder will provide something other AJ opponents haven't, and that's US PPV revenue. So Wilder should just concede that to them and let them keep all the US and UK PPV money?Comment
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Robbie, he isn't going to ask for less on his 1st offer. LOL. He is going to do what anyone would-ask for the most you likely can get and wait until the counteroffer-which, according to Finkel, never came.
You can't reasonably feel Team Wilder asking for 50/50 is what shut down negotiations. Wilder has clearly established himself as the #2 HWT in the world. That is the fight we all want next.
I thought he was signed to SHO. Maybe not. I gotta check on that.
GTFOH. That is ridiculous. An offer was made, there was no response. Team AJ wasn't happy with the number Parker initially wanted (I see a pattern developing hmm???). He negotiated with Parker and they got the fight done.
Why does Wilder has to make an offer that eliminates any negotiation? That isn't reasonable.
Respond to the 50/50 offer, negotiate a deal, get the fight done.Last edited by The Big Dunn; 03-05-2018, 01:34 PM.Comment
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robbie...stop acting like a delusional ******
it doesnt matter what wilder says he wants or what he says at all
hearn is the one that needs to approach wilders side to start the fight....until hearn is going to make a serious offer what wilder says or anything else means NOTHING
anyone with common sense knows this....hearn needs to make an offer....but when it comes up he talks circles and makes a parker fight...hell talk circles again and talk about miller in BK or something....Comment
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Wilders offer was 50/50 or no fight. We got no fight.
They waited for Hearn to do it and then made a ridiculous demand pricing Wilder out.
If Wilder is chasing like you claim why hasn't his team contacted Hearn once to try and make the fight? They know they aren't getting 50/50 so why aren't they making another request?
They don't want the fight.
You can't claim a fighter is avoiding when the offer is so ridiculous nobody in the world expects Joshua to accept it.Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 03-05-2018, 01:39 PM.Comment
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I think there's a power play going on. Wilder needs the fight more than AJ, so Hearn is content to leave the ball in their court and in the process show just where the power lies in this relationship.
Either they make contact, withdraw Wilder's 50/50 demand in favour of something more realistic and in the process show their weakness, or the fight doesn't get made.
That doesn't bother Hearn much because the longer the fight is delayed the greater the return when it happens and the greater the potential for engaging the lucrative US PPV market.
It doesn't affect AJ either, he has plenty of lucrative fights he can pursue. He and Eddie H can and have mapped out a set of fights which take in a mandatory against Povektin, a first look at the US market via Miller and then potentially the most lucrative of them all Fury, whilst Wilder looks on impotently from afar. He can't even be sure of getting the best opposition, because every other HW in the division would drop everything to get a shot at AJ and a career best payday.
Wilder however can't offer them a fifth as much and obviously he's a risk to their careers in the process. Plus he's 32 and can't afford to wait forever as he's unlikely to improve further and indeed may begin to lose the physical edge.
Whereas AJ with 20 fewer pro fights is still learning and is yet to reach his peak. A couple more fights against say Povetkin and Miller may help him hone his skills.
So like I say, a power play. Hearn is waiting for Finkel and Wilder to blink. They're hoping to raise the pressure to get the fight made.
Unless of course there's an agreement behind closed doors and all of this is a pantomime to keep us chatting about it in the run-up to it being announced.Comment
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