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  • Pigeons
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Why was HBO giving both Kovalev and Bivol a pass on fighting each other in the post fight interviews?

    Max was all "we know that fight will be worth more money down the road." "Do you feel that you need to develop some more first?"

    None of the pressuring to have them fight immediately next like they usually do with other fighters.
    Kovalev-Bivol could become a bigger fight down the road. It's a good fight now but could become a great fight in the future if Bivol gets a couple more Sullivan Barrera-level fighters on his resume. I don't see any reason to rush that fight.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Pigeons
      Kovalev-Bivol could become a bigger fight down the road. It's a good fight now but could become a great fight in the future if Bivol gets a couple more Sullivan Barrera-level fighters on his resume. I don't see any reason to rush that fight.
      Ok, but why do the HBO commentators try to rush some champions while others get asked if they would prefer to develop some more first?

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        #13
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Ok, but why do the HBO commentators try to rush some champions while others get asked if they would prefer to develop some more first?
        Who are they rushing? They probably have more experience than Bivol who just fought his first live opponent.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Pigeons
          Who are they rushing? They probably have more experience than Bivol who just fought his first live opponent.
          Roman Gonzalez for example. He got thrown into tough fight after tough fight.

          Never got the luxury of taking it slowly while acclimating to 115 lbs.

          Kovalev vs Bivol should be next. No need to see any more Mikhalkin type foes getting crushed to build hype.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Why was HBO giving both Kovalev and Bivol a pass on fighting each other in the post fight interviews?

            Max was all "we know that fight will be worth more money down the road." "Do you feel that you need to develop some more first?"

            None of the pressuring to have them fight immediately next like they usually do with other fighters.
            You mean like how HBO is pushing Andrade and Jacobs to fight next? Oh wait Jacobs is fighting a guy with as few KOs as Mikhalkin instead.

            But to answer your question, because Bivol has barely fought on HBO before. They know he's an unknown so HBO knows they cant maximize their ratings and however else they make money off these boxing cards if they make the fight next. Just like the promoters know. I expect the fight to happen way sooner than it would in the PBC universe with a guy with 13 fights, I expect it to happen late 2018 or early 2019, before Spence-Thurman even though both of them were on our radar long before Bivol was (just to give you proof of what I just said), but I dont think it will be next. The two promoters, HBO, even MSG, I think they all want to get paid off from a fight with that much talent in it and I think they dont believe they will be if the fight happens next.

            I mean, in a universe where Kovalev got the decision over Ward, this matchup could be looked at as a matchup between the #1 P4P boxer in the world, and one of the next young contenders for that spot in the future. Obviously we'd be ignoring Lomachenko and so on but you still get the picture. On talent Kovalev-Bivol is one of the top 5 matchups of the last 5 years, but if they make it next, most people wont even know it's on TV, just like some NSB posters didnt even know Bivol-Barrera was last night.

            Hopefully Kovalev-Beterbiev or Stevenson is next, and then Bivol can fight the winner.
            Last edited by Boxing Logic; 03-04-2018, 02:09 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by JcLazyX210
              I agree, I am sick of him and Adonis.
              Nah! You just hate Stevenson, but about Kovalev, your feeling is called deception. Because fans starts to realize it was all bluff, he was really trash talking Adonis Stevenson to look better. Most of you fall for Kathy Duva's tongue, most of you wanted to believe this Utopia we call the Krusher. But hey! they were bluffing all along and you, as many others, got fooled.
              Kovalev says what he says. Kovalev wants to milk his WBO & IBO belts. He doesn't want to fight higher opposition until all the top contenders fights each other, so he get a higher payday to fight a unify title holder.
              But Kovalev says to Kellerman, he's not ready for a southpaw, and he would agree to fight guys like Badou Jack. Kellerman had to ask him the same question 3 times, only to get a; "YES! I'm ready for anybody if the money is right"...
              What does that mean?
              1) I'll fight anybody
              2) But no southpaws
              3) And if it's for the WBC belt, I'll agree to meet Badou
              It's not rocket science, Kovalev eliminate the 2 southpaws from the mix:
              Marcus Browne & Adonis Stevenson.
              And the only name he brought up as a possible futur matchup is: Badou Jack, "in case he wins against Stevenson = Impossible".

              *Sheeps; forget everything you thought you knew about Kovalev, and follow the truth:
              Kovalev is ducking 40 years old Stevenson, it was always the case...

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                #17
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Ok, but why do the HBO commentators try to rush some champions while others get asked if they would prefer to develop some more first?
                They ask plenty of boxers that, and I agree I dont like usually like it, but Bivol with 13 fights being an unknown in the US is a unique circumstance. But Im pretty sure Max asked Andre Ward about that or at least said during commentary that he might prefer if Ward actually had 4 tuneup fights, instead of just 3, to get really polished for Kovalev, and that it was somehow Ward's right to make the fight "whenever the perfect time for him is" or something, with no regard for Kovalev.

                You might also recall the HBO commentators started the Kovalev-Mikhalkin portion of the broadcast completely ****ting on Kovalev and saying that he and his team were basically lying about offering the fight to better fighters than Mikhalkin and that this was really all about building Kovalev back up, completely ignoring the FACT that Barrera was offered the Kovalev fight but declined, alone with many others (Marcus Browne apparently, and so on).

                When has HBO ever done that with one of their teacher's pets like Canelo or Ward is a better question?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                  Why was HBO giving both Kovalev and Bivol a pass on fighting each other in the post fight interviews?

                  Max was all "we know that fight will be worth more money down the road." "Do you feel that you need to develop some more first?"

                  None of the pressuring to have them fight immediately next like they usually do with other fighters.
                  Because Max is horrible at his job!!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Roman Gonzalez for example. He got thrown into tough fight after tough fight.

                    Never got the luxury of taking it slowly while acclimating to 115 lbs.

                    Kovalev vs Bivol should be next. No need to see any more Mikhalkin type foes getting crushed to build hype.
                    Where was this spirit when Stevenson was crushing cans for 4 years?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      Why was HBO giving both Kovalev and Bivol a pass on fighting each other in the post fight interviews?

                      Max was all "we know that fight will be worth more money down the road." "Do you feel that you need to develop some more first?"

                      None of the pressuring to have them fight immediately next like they usually do with other fighters.
                      Yo that shit was crazy. I’m like Max do you even give a fuck about fans anymore?

                      See this is why HBO is full of crap. It’s the beat fight the network can make so they try to stall it and then have kov call out Badou Jack which was fake as hell.

                      If they don’t make Bivol kov next I’m not watching either fight.

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