People who are fans if GGG but not Wilder

[Cutthroat]

You must be joking. I just named Quillin, who is better than any of Eubanks wins. Of course he's magically shot to suit your narrative, but Abraham, who actually was shot, and beat a Murray who destroyed years earlier, remains relevant in your mind. You should look at
then. Saunders is undefeated, but nearly lost to an unknown before he changed trainers. He admits he was in bad shape at thaf stage of he's career, and yet he still boxed Eubanks ears off. For thr first six rounds he barely threw a punch. He just got totally outclassed by Groves. Eubank didn't destroy a shot Abraham, he out boxed him. I'm waiting to hear about that knockout. He doesn't compare to Jacobs.Your the one saying Golovkin is behind Saunders btw, but Saunders only good wins are against GGG leftovers, and it took him longer to beat older versions of the same fighters. As for keep bringing up Wooden, it's irrelevant. It's on you to show Ortiz was this great fighter, but the record isn't there. He had Jennings and no one else. Ortiz was either a drug cheat or had high blood pressure by the time he fought Deontay. Either way he was finished. Imagine Moorer, a guy who beat Holyfield struggling with Dave Allen, a guy who's beat no one. Imagine Moorer, Byrd or Sanders struggling to get to grips with Malik Scott. Ortiz had one good win, over two years ago against a weak puncher. Ortiz would have been knocked spark out by Foreman, who at 46 still had better stamina than the current Ortiz, no failed drug tests and no high blood pressure. How's the career welterweight doing today?

Quillin was not a great win, he was a shot fighter that hadn't made 160 in over 2 years, fighting at a 163lb catch weight the previous fight, not even against Andy Lee did he make weight.

Why do you think DJ was able to KO him so fast when he couldn't even KO 99% of the other guys on his resume that fast?


Martin Murray is a top 4 win on ggg's resume, that win was getting him on people's P4P lists along with Lemieux lmao. Go ahead, name ALL the better wins on ggg's resume than Lemieux/Murray, how many can you find, Jacobs, who else? And Murray-ggg went 11 rounds, it was one of ggg's more difficult fights.

ggg beats Murray/Lemieux: "OMG P4P fighter, fighter of the year"

BJS beats Lemieux-"okay win"
Abraham beats Murray-"doesn't count"

Haven't you learned how much you fan boys hype up ggg's resume already? BJS didn't just beat Lemieux he annihilated him, it was not competitive just like Eubank-Abraham was not competitive.


Wooden is irrelevant? Hell no, he was a southpaw just like Ortiz, except without his amateur experience, pro experience, without his power, he was nowhere near Ortiz' level.

Ortiz dominated Allen, no idea what your'e talking about


Moorer got KTFO by an obese 45 year old George Foreman lmao


Just like James Toney was obese and drawing with Rahman, schooling Sam Peter



You can't be obese in this era and win fights, you could however in the 90's/00's.

[Mindgames]

Quillin was not a great win, he was a shot fighter that hadn't made 160 in over 2 years, fighting at a 163lb catch weight the previous fight, not even against Andy Lee did he make weight.

Why do you think DJ was able to KO him so fast when he couldn't even KO 99% of the other guys on his resume that fast?


Martin Murray is a top 4 win on ggg's resume, that win was getting him on people's P4P lists along with Lemieux lmao. Go ahead, name ALL the better wins on ggg's resume than Lemieux/Murray, how many can you find, Jacobs, who else? And Murray-ggg went 11 rounds, it was one of ggg's more difficult fights.

ggg beats Murray/Lemieux: "OMG P4P fighter, fighter of the year"

BJS beats Lemieux-"okay win"
Abraham beats Murray-"doesn't count"

Haven't you learned how much you fan boys hype up ggg's resume already? BJS didn't just beat Lemieux he annihilated him, it was not competitive just like Eubank-Abraham was not competitive.


Wooden is irrelevant? Hell no, he was a southpaw just like Ortiz, except without his amateur experience, pro experience, without his power, he was nowhere near Ortiz' level.

Ortiz dominated Allen, no idea what your'e talking about


Moorer got KTFO by an obese 45 year old George Foreman lmao


Just like James Toney was obese and drawing with Rahman, schooling Sam Peter



You can't be obese in this era and win fights, you could however in the 90's/00's.

Eubank beat an Abraham who was truly shot. He had life and death with non world class Paul Smith, he had the rematch because the first fight was so close. And Eubank didn't put a dent in him. He's just had hes head boxed off, by a man he couldn't even touch when he had one arm. He's beaten no one. He's a national joke. Of course Golovkin beating Lemieux easily inside the distance beat Saunders beating an older Lemieux on points. If its such a great win why not years before when GGG did it? No logic. Now, Toney and Foreman may have been fat,but their best wins were much better than Jennings. They also didn't have a serious health problem. Although Jennings was nobody special and had no power, that was over two years ago. Since then Ortiz had deteriorated greatly. He failed a drug test and had acquired a serious illness. High blood pressure has damaging effects on health and stamina. He lumbered against Malik Scott. I saw him fight Allen, he laboured against a domestic fighter who trained himself at a leisure centre. Although Ortiz has no one on he's record of note, he wasnt the same man two years post Jennings.He wasnt just shot, he was ill. So I'm still waiting for that time Eubank knocked out a word class fighter. And the story of how Canelo is a welterweight.