Is Wilder weight loss fishy?

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  • Lomadeaux
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    #31
    Originally posted by Vinnykin
    Not in the HW division, he was already athletic and the perfect weight, I see no benefit from losing 10lbs of muscle in this division.
    Well, just tune in tonight and you'll see. He may or may not have done it on purpose. He's a big dude. 215 pounds at his height is a great weight.

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    • Dr.Cool
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      #32
      Maybe he has the hiv. Or maybe Fury isn't the only heavyweight who likes *******. Or possibly there is a double who plays him. Could be all kinds of things. I'm not even convinced he lost any weight. I never saw Wilder last year or this year or ever in person. They can do all kinds of photoshopping and video gimmicks to make someone look a tiny bit bigger or smaller no problem. Maybe Wilder is actually gaining weight, but everyone is trying to convince us he's losing weight. Like I said, could be all kinds of things.

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      • Vinnykin
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        #33
        Originally posted by Lomadeaux
        Well, just tune in tonight and you'll see. He may or may not have done it on purpose. He's a big dude. 215 pounds at his height is a great weight.
        Your prediction may well be true, and Wilder might win, but I'm one of the people that think Ortiz has not fought competitively for 2 years and has visibly slowed down...... very much like Stiverne, both 38 and inactive and looked like **** in their last fights.......maybe Ortiz will surprise me, but I try to think logically, and no guy that age with Ortiz record and momentum has ever been good

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        • Lomadeaux
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          #34
          Originally posted by Vinnykin
          Your prediction may well be true, and Wilder might win, but I'm one of the people that think Ortiz has not fought competitively for 2 years and has visibly slowed down...... very much like Stiverne, both 38 and inactive and looked like **** in their last fights.......maybe Ortiz will surprise me, but I try to think logically, and no guy that age with Ortiz record and momentum has ever been good
          One thing I never understood from guys like Stiverne is, why the hell do you carry around all that extra weight? Not just in his belly but all of that hair as well. It's just weird. I also didn't know he was 39 years old right now. Crazy.

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          • Vinnykin
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            #35
            Originally posted by Lomadeaux
            One thing I never understood from guys like Stiverne is, why the hell do you carry around all that extra weight? Not just in his belly but all of that hair as well. It's just weird. I also didn't know he was 39 years old right now. Crazy.
            Stiverne was never a serious boxer, he never went into camps and pushed himself, have you heard of Stiverne going into Klitschko or Haye camps? Wilder did, Joshua did, Fury did...... Stiverne apparently gets battered by low level opponents and then claims he was going easy on them, pathetic piece of **** who is all ego and not willing to push himself...... I'm not a fan of Wilder or Joshua.... but they have my respect for turning up in shape and ready to fight....... guys like Stiverne..... disgrace to boxing

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            • NearHypnos
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              #36
              With as hard as he hits the weight doesn’t matter. Not only that but being honest, getting tagged by a huge left hand by Ortiz at either 215 or 230 is going to hurt him. Likewise for Joshua in the potential future. A little less weight might mean he’s been working better in camp too. Maybe working on moving more and using his jab. He knows he hits hard and will probably not be able to bullrush someone like Joshua or Ortiz so he should be prepared to use his length to soften em up with jabs for the later rounds. Joshua has stamina “issues” and Ortiz is “old” so taking them into deep waters is physically a good move.

              If he wasn’t a huge puncher I’d worry as people would just lean on him and overwhelm him with size and power since he lacks a certain finesse about him but that power is a real threat.

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              • Ray Corso
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                #37
                Four months ago he weighed in at 221 now he comes in 215lbs.
                He must have done more road work and possibly brought his work rate up also.
                I think he'll look to control distance using angles and moving his jab up and down. If he takes to Ortiz I'll be surprised but he has the best seat to look into Ortiz's eyes!

                As far as standings and what I've seen from both in the past few years this is the best heavyweight fight out there right now.
                Joshua and Parker is the next best, hopefully the winners match up and the losers do too.

                Ring the damn bell, fight hard I hope they stay safe........

                Ray

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                • mcdonalds
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Lomadeaux
                  Losing 15 pounds in 2 weeks isn't hard...
                  exactly sir

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by _Maxi
                    Some of you seem to be missing the point. I'm not saying it's impossible to lose the weight. My question is.

                    What is the point of losing 15 pounds when you are already a skinny HW?

                    But I get what others commented. Maybe he's worked different this time, looking for something else.
                    More conditioning and not so much power.
                    Maybe he was sick.

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                    • KingHippo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Boksfan
                      Oh fck no, none of that!
                      Lol, better believe Wilder is putting his dancing shoes tonight

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