Comments Thread For: Wilder: Ortiz Has Much More Boxing Skills Than Klitschko

[Factual Voice]

Andre Ward gets called a master boxer for the same shit.

It's the hypocritical culture that leads these fools to believe what they believe. The new sheep culture. Pathetic

[Fabes88]

It was largely due to the fact that he was a dirty fighter. The officials allowed Wlad to hold too much without so much as deducting a point or even disqualifying him. There were many times, that he should have been disqualified but wasn't because he was white and able to get away with it.

Had that been Deontay Wilder fighting like that he would have lost his titles a long time ago by way of disqualification. As I've stated earlier in the "Why all the unjustified hatred of Deontay Wilder" thread. It stems from the fact that he is black and because the boxing has a tendency of raising the bar when it comes to Black American fighters in particular and Black American athletes in general.

So do you think Andre ward should’ve been disqualified in any of his fights for pretty much the same thing?

[Factual Voice]

It was largely due to the fact that he was a dirty fighter. The officials allowed Wlad to hold too much without so much as deducting a point or even disqualifying him. There were many times, that he should have been disqualified but wasn't because he was white and able to get away with it.

Had that been Deontay Wilder fighting like that he would have lost his titles a long time ago by way of disqualification. As I've stated earlier in the "Why all the unjustified hatred of Deontay Wilder" thread. It stems from the fact that he is black and because the boxing has a tendency of raising the bar when it comes to Black American fighters in particular and Black American athletes in general.

So Ward and Floyd got away with much worse yet that's ok in your book because Floyd is ****** and Ward is half black....

They got away with:

Headbutts Ward
Low blows Ward
Excessive holding both
Running both
Favorable judging both
Favorable refs both

Yet Wlad accumulated 50 some knockouts in 60 fights but Floyd and Ward both had a 50% KO rate and are excused by you hypocrites.

Do us a favor and stop making boxing a joke. Supporting this cultural bias only makes your demographic seem more desperate to hang it's hat on some fleeting success of it's past in boxing. Those days are long gone and not coming back due to the attitude of the USA fighter today. Entitled and scared to fight the best. Art imitating life? Or life imitating art?

[Fabes88]

Ortiz has better skills and is younger than Klitschko. At least if Wilder K.O.s Ortiz it will look better than a washed up Klit who got schooled by Fury and was inactive for 1 1/2 yrs. People who are calling Ortiz 50 yrs old are delusional and need to put down their AJ pom-poms

Not really delusional. Pretty sure I remember an interview where Ortiz said he used to watch Ali live so him being 50 isn’t really “delusional” you don’t need to be a genius to read between the lines

[champion4ever]

So do you think Andre ward should’ve been disqualified in any of his fights for pretty much the same thing?

No, Ward held in order to hit. Klitschko held in order to avoid getting hit.

[Cutthroat]

Pretending Wlad didn't dominate the HW division from 2005-2015 and the 2nd all time in successful title defenses are those ago think Ward deserved a decision over Kovalev and a clean stoppage that didn't involve four low blows in the final round to accomplish it


Face facts. The last three lineal heavyweight champions were:

Vitali Klitschko
Wlad Klitschko
Tyson fury


This shows exactly where your boxing culture is today. It's a joke.

Wlad dominated one of the weakest divisions in boxing of all time, an era where Tony Thompson was the 3rd best super heavy behind Wlad & Vitali. Where a prime Vitali nearly got his eye ripped out by an out of shape and old Lewis on the verge of retirement. Where little David Haye was his biggest threat lmao.

Wlad and Vitali literally lost to the ONLY A level fighters on his resume, Fury & AJ.

[Boksfan]

Klitschko knocked him cold in sparring. Wanted no part of Wlad . His people keep protecting him because of that glass jaw exposed by a bum Sconiers[/IMG]

Lmao that dude knocked him down?

[champion4ever]

So Ward and Floyd got away with much worse yet that's ok in your book because Floyd is ****** and Ward is half black....

They got away with:

Headbutts Ward
Low blows Ward
Excessive holding both
Running both
Favorable judging both
Favorable refs both

Yet Wlad accumulated 50 some knockouts in 60 fights but Floyd and Ward both had a 50% KO rate and are excused by you hypocrites.

Do us a favor and stop making boxing a joke. Supporting this cultural bias only makes your demographic seem more desperate to hang it's hat on some fleeting success of it's past in boxing. Those days are long gone and not coming back due to the attitude of the USA fighter today. Entitled and scared to fight the best. Art imitating life? Or life imitating art?

We are talking about Heavyweights here and not fighters from lighter weight classes. You are making excuses to rationalize Wlad's antics. Why get so sensitive and hurt over the truth. Just as you said about Deontay Wilder; Wladimir Klitschko had fought in the worst division in the history of Heavyweights and still had to resort to cheating in order to win against over matched, tomato can, washed up, diminished, limited bum opponents and yet still manage to accumulate more than 5 losses on his record against them; With four of them coming by way of knockout . Shame on anyone defending him.

[Boksfan]

No, Ward held in order to hit. Klitschko held in order to avoid getting hit.

Lmao you are not only racist but also ******ed, cong****.

[_Rexy_]

Lmao at these clowns calling Klitschko boring and dissing his “jab, jab, hold” technique will swallowing Ward’s balls and licking his anus in other threads....

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yeah, I hate on both though...