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  • Blackclouds
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    #121
    How is Whyte talking **** when there's even stronger rumors that he's been ko'd in sparring?

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    • john l
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      #122
      Originally posted by Factual Voice
      Wilder had been knocked cold in sparring by wlad Klitschko and this had been confirmed by four reliable sources in camp:

      Ali Bashir who was Wilders corner man in those sparring sessions. Said Wilder and the other sparring partner were both down and out.

      Andy lee. Was in every wlad Klitschko camp because of their relationship with Manny said Wilder was knocked cold.

      Johnny Nelson said Wilder was knocked cold twice and down once.

      Whyte says the same.


      Can you people please see reality fir what it is instead of drinking the kool aid to make your feel better about the USA boxing establishment? This is desperation to create a great urban hype. The new primo Carnera except different fanbase target.
      Yea and Joshua was KOed by a green cruiser AFTER he was champ and Dropped hard by a green heavy AGAIN AFTER he was champ.Which looks worse a green Wilder being KOed by the CHAMP or Joshua being KOed by Okili and Dubois.And we could add Price too but ALL that guy can do is punch.Im a fan of BOTH boxing needs the super fight that could be Joshua vs Wilder but it seems like I'm always defending Wilder if I live to be a thousand ill never understand the hate.

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      • john l
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        #123
        Originally posted by Ray Corso
        " USA boxing establishment"?.....seriously?

        Do you think an individuals career is an indication on how a nations outlook on a sport is viewed or is a reality.

        I can't see you but your definitely as dumb as you look!

        I don't care who got dropped or stopped in a gym, I do know that Wlad appreciated Wilder or he wouldn't have him in his camp!

        Fr-actual Voice your the one sucking down the kool-aid son.

        Ray
        Nice .................

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        • Factual Voice
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          #124
          Originally posted by Blackclouds
          How is Whyte talking **** when there's even stronger rumors that he's been ko'd in sparring?
          Indeed! All these men confirmed it

          Andy Lee
          Johnny Nelson
          Bashir Ali

          All were interviewed about this separate times years ago before wilder even was a big deal at HW

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          • Factual Voice
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            #125
            Originally posted by john l
            Yea and Joshua was KOed by a green cruiser AFTER he was champ and Dropped hard by a green heavy AGAIN AFTER he was champ.Which looks worse a green Wilder being KOed by the CHAMP or Joshua being KOed by Okili and Dubois.And we could add Price too but ALL that guy can do is punch.Im a fan of BOTH boxing needs the super fight that could be Joshua vs Wilder but it seems like I'm always defending Wilder if I live to be a thousand ill never understand the hate.
            Joshua got up and beat Wlad....big difference than getting up vs a bum who was paid to lose ....

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            • Factual Voice
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              #126
              Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
              Fair point but Tillis was still in his prime when say Thomas stopped him for example, and Peralta fought Pastrano when Pastrano was coming near the end and went 10 rds twice with a prime Foreman. As I said styles make fights.
              I agree Wilder is massively overrated by some, but his power is the least overrated element of his game. His power is 100% legit.
              His power is as legit as Malik Scott taking that dive. But I digress. Knocking out bums I guess today means everything to the great USA heavyweight hype.

              Last USA lineal champion was 1999 on a fluky Hasim Rahman KO. The USA is desperate for any representation at HW...

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              • Factual Voice
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                #127
                Originally posted by john l
                And if you ask Eric Molina he will say Wilder hits hardest and also Ian Lewison(clubfighter)I think that's his name he has sparred with ALL the top heavys and he says Wilder too.So its not a fact its a opinion and MOST opinion's ive seen pick Wilder the better puncher Joshua the more complete fighter.Which is what my eyes tell me also.
                Better ask Molina why he was knocked out early without even being competitive vs Joshua vs giving wilder all he can handle....

                Molina said Joshua's power was more dangerous, because he didn't know where the punches were coming from. You better re read that interview. Seems alternative facts here carries the day. But if you can hang your hat on Molina who was knocked out in one round by Arreola and Joshua in three then be my guest. Wilder is so hyped it's disgusting.

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                • Blackclouds
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Factual Voice
                  Indeed! All these men confirmed it

                  Andy Lee
                  Johnny Nelson
                  Bashir Ali

                  All were interviewed about this separate times years ago before wilder even was a big deal at HW
                  I was talking about Whyte, the very same trailer says the same thing about him but as a pro his chin is good. This is heavyweight boxing.

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                  • john l
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Factual Voice
                    Indeed! All these men confirmed it

                    Andy Lee
                    Johnny Nelson
                    Bashir Ali

                    All were interviewed about this separate times years ago before wilder even was a big deal at HW
                    You just said it BEFORE Wilder was even known.Joshua got KOed by prospects(one a cruiser)after he was champ.Its sparring it don't mean sh ite.

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                    • john l
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Factual Voice
                      Better ask Molina why he was knocked out early without even being competitive vs Joshua vs giving wilder all he can handle....

                      Molina said Joshua's power was more dangerous, because he didn't know where the punches were coming from. You better re read that interview. Seems alternative facts here carries the day. But if you can hang your hat on Molina who was knocked out in one round by Arreola and Joshua in three then be my guest. Wilder is so hyped it's disgusting.
                      No you were talking about POWER and Molina said Wilder hits harder.And Joshua fought him AFTER he was already KOed by Wilder.Alot of guys NEVER recover after being KOed they don't take a punch as well anymore.And ill take Molina word for it before yours.

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