Comments Thread For: Canelo Slams Abel Sanchez: He Has No Idea What Boxing Is!

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  • yoshik
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    #31
    Really? I guess he didn't do a thing for these guys...lol! Of course I bet casuals wouldn't know most of these guys.

    Terry Norris
    Orlin Norris
    Lupe Aquino
    Jesus Salud
    Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    Samuel Peter
    Nana Konadu
    Paul Vaden
    Jesus Salud
    Joel Diaz Jr.
    Carlos Baldomir
    Francois Botha
    Luis Carlos Abregu
    Salvador Sanchez
    Gennady Golovkin
    Zaurbek Baysangurov
    Konstantin Ponomarev
    Sullivan Barrera
    Murat Gassiev
    Denis Shafikov
    Ben Hall

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    • yoshik
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      #32
      Originally posted by HURTFEELINGS
      "just going forward throwing punches" This is what most posters on here, THINK is boxing, no defense, just come forward swinging. Thats the statement that made a lot of posters MAD Guess the boxer coming up in weight is supposed to stand there and trade? THE GREATEST BOXERS......ACTUALLY BOX
      Whelp apparently GGG "OUTBOXED" him the first fight. He won. And don't give me that "draw" bull****. YOu're not that ******.

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      • yoshik
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        #33
        Originally posted by landotter
        I was about to defend Sanchez until I read your post. Really made me think. I will have to pay more attention to Sanchez trained fighters. Are they "over coached", and not tuned to their natural abilities?

        Really interesting argument.
        Well look at the fighters he trained and then look at this "argument." Well rounded. Terry Norris a "plodder"? I dont think so.

        Terry Norris
        Orlin Norris
        Lupe Aquino
        Jesus Salud
        Miguel Angel Gonzalez
        Samuel Peter
        Nana Konadu
        Paul Vaden
        Jesus Salud
        Joel Diaz Jr.
        Carlos Baldomir
        Francois Botha
        Luis Carlos Abregu
        Salvador Sanchez
        Gennady Golovkin
        Zaurbek Baysangurov
        Konstantin Ponomarev
        Sullivan Barrera
        Murat Gassiev
        Denis Shafikov
        Ben Hall
        Last edited by yoshik; 02-28-2018, 09:01 AM.

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        • yoshik
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          #34
          Originally posted by Sancho Puncho
          Sanchez is a good trainer, but not for every kind of boxers. The style of boxing that Abel Sanchez instills in his fighters basically clicks good with those boxers who really can punch. Golovkin and Gassiev are the best examples of Sanzhez work as a trainer. Those guys who can`t punch would be better off with another trainer.
          I don't know about that. Like Emanuel Steward, he was able to increase the balance of his guys which lend itself to punching power. Here are his fighters. All styles of boxing from technical to pure power.

          Terry Norris
          Orlin Norris
          Lupe Aquino
          Jesus Salud
          Miguel Angel Gonzalez
          Samuel Peter
          Nana Konadu
          Paul Vaden
          Jesus Salud
          Joel Diaz Jr.
          Carlos Baldomir
          Francois Botha
          Luis Carlos Abregu
          Salvador Sanchez
          Gennady Golovkin
          Zaurbek Baysangurov
          Konstantin Ponomarev
          Sullivan Barrera
          Murat Gassiev
          Denis Shafikov
          Ben Hall

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          • apollocreed
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            #35
            Originally posted by kushking
            Except him & lara didn't fight at all the same way in any way shape or form,it takes an absolute novice to say that they did. Canelo outlanded ggg in power shots ffs & threw 200 less,he also stood on the ropes throughout the fight & counter combos ggg all night,if you can't compare compubox & realize what should've been obvious then
            OK maybe, but Lara still landed a lot of clean shots in that fight. I don't think he did quite enough to win, he wasn't active enough in the final third of the fight and let Canelo take the rounds. However he wasn't running, because he was landing punches, that's still boxing. Canelo shouldn't have complained so much about Lara, he came off a bit of a ****. That was more my original point, he never gives seems to give much credit to opponents.

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            • kushking
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              #36
              Originally posted by apollocreed
              OK maybe, but Lara still landed a lot of clean shots in that fight. I don't think he did quite enough to win, he wasn't active enough in the final third of the fight and let Canelo take the rounds. However he wasn't running, because he was landing punches, that's still boxing. Canelo shouldn't have complained so much about Lara, he came off a bit of a ****. That was more my original point, he never gives seems to give much credit to opponents.
              Alright I'll give you that that they both used movement but compare compubox & you'll see they were completely different fights because Lara is a legitimate "runner" style,(nothing wrong with that but boring af) canelo has ALWAYS been a power counterpuncher with excellent all around skills & neither one was a come forward fighter like ggg.

              Both fighters landed about 100 punches in the lara fight,in ggg fight it was almost twice that(compubox is ALWAYS slightly inaccurate). But in that fight canelo landed 88/232 power shots to 52/140 for lara,he landed 38% power shots to laras 37%(both excellent%),vs ggg ginger landed 114/272 power shots & ggg landed 110/342,

              nelo landed 42%(insanely high % & Mayweather like #s) & ggg landed 32% power shots which once again shows what kind of fight it was,canelo was outlanded by jabs in both fights as he threw far less than his opponent( while he actually destroyed lara with power shots & his incredibly high42 % of power shots vs ggg demonstrates that he was the fighter landing most the clear power shots/combos/body shots( 54 body shots to 8 for ggg). Just something to consider
              Last edited by kushking; 02-28-2018, 09:41 AM.

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              • DuckAdonis
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                #37
                Abel sanchez needs to come up with a different gameplan to catch Canelo and stop him....telling Canelo to stand still wont work Abel you ******

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                • Ogecca MaMa
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                  #38
                  can't believe Canelo is this dumb to fall into this?

                  Sanchez runs his mouth, so do you, so what?

                  but according to your logic, if Sanzhes such a bad couch, you even worse in the ring, since you were back paddling most of the fight against his man.
                  Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 02-28-2018, 10:28 AM.

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                  • HarvardBlue
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                    #39
                    I wouldn't classify what Canelo did as running. He did move backwards a lot but I think it was strategic. He also used a lot feints to throw Golovkin's timing off. I don't think going straight to the ropes was a good idea but I'm assuming he did it because he was trying to conserve energy. And Golovkin never capitalized on him being stationary on the ropes because he hesitated to let his hands go. This was one of those fights where both fighters gave each other too much respect. Hopefully, all that will go out the window in the rematch.

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                    • mrlopez
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                      #40
                      CONelo complained Floyd moved too much when they fought. So his response smells of mierda

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