Comments Thread For: Canelo Will Fight Golovkin For WBC Belt, Says Sulaiman

[BigStomps]

Use some common sense. When you pay a step-aside, if you want to duck the mandatory a second time, you obviously have to pay a second step-aside.

I've provided ample evidence that GGG was paid a step-aside for the Khan fight. If you prefer to remain in denial, that is your choice. Take care.

Yeah same to you.... ✌

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Did only reason he vacated the middleweight belt it's cause Canelo is the biggest star in boxing and of course he's not gonna let a piece of shet alphabet soup organization tell him how much he's gotta pay his opponent.

Lebron James is the biggest star in basketball, but an alphabet soup organization tells him how much he's gotta pay his opponent. That is how sports works. Someone is in charge of regulating who plays who, what they will be paid, etc.

What you're advocating is that Canelo be allowed to cherry pick infinitely.

[Robbie Barrett]

Sanctioning fee acquired. Mission accomplished.

I wouldn't be so sure. They might have waved the fee just to get Canelo to accept the belt.

[Robbie Barrett]

Lebron James is the biggest star in basketball, but an alphabet soup organization tells him how much he's gotta pay his opponent. That is how sports works. Someone is in charge of regulating who plays who, what they will be paid, etc.

What you're advocating is that Canelo be allowed to cherry pick infinitely.

GTFOH. Way more often than not it's the orgs that give us terrible fights with terrible mandatories. The belts are nothing more than promotional tools in boxing. When a fighter gets so big he can fight anyone he likes like Canelo can, he doesn't need the belts.

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Way more often than not it's the orgs that give us terrible fights with terrible mandatories.

Looks what happens when they give you a good mandatory. The champion ducked.

The belts are nothing more than promotional tools in boxing.

Every championship is a promotional tool. The Super Bowl. The World Cup. The World Series. Pro sports exist to make money. Championships exist as promotional tools.

When a fighter gets so big he can fight anyone he likes like Canelo can, he doesn't need the belts.

Yet he paid step-aside twice in a row because he needed the belt, fought a random dude nobody cared about after he ducked GGG because the random dude nobody cared about had a belt, is now agreeing to fight for all the belts.

For someone that doesn't need belts, he sure seems to keep paying fees for lots of belts . . .

[BigStomps]

Lebron James is the biggest star in basketball, but an alphabet soup organization tells him how much he's gotta pay his opponent. That is how sports works. Someone is in charge of regulating who plays who, what they will be paid, etc.

What you're advocating is that Canelo be allowed to cherry pick infinitely.

Are you fuccing ******?? You're comparing Boxing with basketball now?? I thought you was smarter than that but you've proved me wrong!
First of all, what other players get paid has nothing to do with LeBron. The money other players make isn't coming out of lebron's pockets.
Second of all the NBA is all under want branch. One league. And all players follow the same rules.
I know it eats at you that a Mexican is the biggest star in boxing and he calls the shots and he dictates what his opponents get paid. Canelo is bigger than any piece of shet alphabet soup belt and he don't need any of them piece of shet belts!
So don't hate the player, hate the game!

[Robbie Barrett]

Looks what happens when they give you a good mandatory. The champion ducked.




Every championship is a promotional tool. The Super Bowl. The World Cup. The World Series. Pro sports exist to make money. Championships exist as promotional tools.




Yet he paid step-aside twice in a row because he needed the belt, fought a random dude nobody cared about after he ducked GGG because the random dude nobody cared about had a belt, is now agreeing to fight for all the belts.

For someone that doesn't need belts, he sure seems to keep paying fees for lots of belts . . .

Why are you comparing Boxing orgs to other sports? Other sports the teams have no choice but to play everyone. There's no regulatory body that can force that in boxing. So the only options we have are relying on the fighter to choose or the orgs mandatories. The voluntary defences by title holders are usually way better than the mandatories. At this point the orgs are a detriment to good fights being made.

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what other players get paid has nothing to do with LeBron. The money other players make isn't coming out of lebron's pockets.

Basketball has max contracts and salary caps. What Lebron makes is restricted by an alphabet soup organization so his opponents can be paid more.

Second of all the NBA is all under want branch. One league. And all players follow the same rules.

And boxing has four leagues. So when a boxer doesn't like the rules, they go compete in a different league. This is why boxing needs a monopoly like all the other major sports.

I know it eats at you that a Mexican is the biggest star in boxing and he calls the shots and he dictates what his opponents get paid.

Why would I care what the nationality of the biggest star is? You're not making any sense.

[N/A]

Why are you comparing Boxing orgs to other sports?

Because they are boxing's equivalent to the leagues in other sports.

Other sports the teams have no choice but to play everyone.

They play the teams in their league. There are basketball leagues all over the world. The Cleveland Cavaliers don't play the New Zealand breakers. Basketball has one league the world values head and shoulders above all others and so fans are confident that most of the world's greatest players are playing in that league.

Unfortunately in boxing, the difference in prestige between the the #1 league and the #2 league isn't as wide as other sports, so boxers can jump from one league to the next to avoid each other.

There's no regularity body that can force that in boxing.

Yes there is. The problem though is that there are a lot of them, so boxers can switch leagues to avoid each other. If we stopped recognizing the newer leagues, it would be much tougher for fighters to hide. Canelo was able to duck GGG because he could just switch to the WBO and hope his fans didn't know the difference. Fortunately, that fight flopped, which forced him to eventually return to the more prominent leagues.

So the only options we have are relying on the fighter to choose or the orgs mandatories. The voluntary defences by title holders are usually way better than the mandatories.

That's because we allow fighters to hide in four different leagues. It didn't used to be like this.

At this point the orgs are a detriment to good fights being made.

There being SO MANY orgs is the detriment. The sport essentially had two competing titles for 60+ years and generally the best fought the best and undisputed champions were fairly common. Recognizing the IBF & WBO is what has made things so awful.

[Robbie Barrett]

Because they are boxing's equivalent to the leagues in other sports.




They play the teams in their league. There are basketball leagues all over the world. The Cleveland Cavaliers don't play the New Zealand breakers. Basketball has one league the world values head and shoulders above all others and so fans are confident that most of the world's greatest players are playing in that league.

Unfortunately in boxing, the difference in prestige between the the #1 league and the #2 league isn't as wide as other sports, so boxers can jump from one league to the next to avoid each other.




Yes there is. The problem though is that there are a lot of them, so boxers can switch leagues to avoid each other. If we stopped recognizing the newer leagues, it would be much tougher for fighters to hide. Canelo was able to duck GGG because he could just switch to the WBO and hope his fans didn't know the difference. Fortunately, that fight flopped, which forced him to eventually return to the more prominent leagues.




That's because we allow fighters to hide in four different leagues. It didn't used to be like this.




There being SO MANY orgs is the detriment. The sport essentially had two competing titles for 60+ years and generally the best fought the best and undisputed champions were fairly common. Recognizing the IBF & WBO is what has made things so awful.

You do realise your basically agreeing with me that the orgs are **** but you are playing the blame game, don't you?

Even if there was 1 org that org doesn't have the power to force fighters to fight. Sure it can strip them but can't prevent them fighting someone else. Other sports the teams are forced to play each other, they have no choice. The only power the orgs have is who wears their shiny promotional tool.