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  • #61
    Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
    Man wtf are you talking about ? Wilder was the one saying he wasnt ready for klitschko yet at 30+ fights.
    That might be true but you're getting your facts wrong. Once Wilder won his WBC title from Stiverne he did call out and wanted to unify with Wladimir Klitschko but Wlad was interested.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Gbenopix View Post
      Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel
      By Edward Chaykovsky
      WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (33-0, 32KOs) is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. After last Saturday's world title win over Bermane Stiverne, the hype began growing for a fight between Wilder and WBO/WBA/IBO/IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko.
      Finkel, who manages Wilder with Al Haymon and Jay Deas, also works closely with Klitschko.
      Those were Finkel's words and not Wilder's. After several weeks had gone by Deontay had expressed a wish to unify the titles against Klitschko but Wladimir wasn't interested.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bluemax View Post
        Oh my God Hearn is such a blow hard!!! When will Joshua stop fighting tomato cans? His next title defense is a unification bout against a smaller journeyman fighter who happens to be also undefeated for the same reason as Joshua. He hasn't fought anyone!!!! Joshua is a good fighter who is so protected and it must be for a reason. He got decked by a way, way past his prime Klitchko and now that is seen as Joshua's greatest fight beating a old Klitchko!!!! At least Wilder takes on all comers including the dangerous Ortiz who would never be allowed anywhere hear Joshua. So please Hearn shut up about Wilder, he proves he's the real deal while you prop Joshua up with a mass marketing campaign claiming everyone is afraid of him by offering low ball contracts. Lets see a 50-50 fight against Wilder mister big mouth.



        If Klitchko is a tomato can and Parker is a journey man then i am done with deluded Wilder fans

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Paddy Mashdown View Post
          Probably because he's a good promoter. A good promoter looks after his fighters and gets them the maximum amount of cash for the minimum amount of risk.

          Wilder will regret promoting himself when Ortiz knocks him out.
          That's what's it's about. Money. Not entirely true for Wilder. He took Ortiz because people always said he ducked him and if he fought Whyte everyone would be talking about how Wilder ducked Ortiz. Wilder taking the risk for the fans. Let's see who Wilder fights next because Joshua won't be ready because they will make more money if we wait. That's promotions for you. We don't allow fighters to call the shots entirely anymore.
          Last edited by NickyB; 02-27-2018, 11:29 AM.

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          • #65
            Boxing fans kill me.

            Fans kick and scream and demand that fighters take the toughest possible fights - then when Wilder does exactly that, fans say he's ****** for not taking an easier fight for less money.

            Wilder is doing what he should do: build his profile and his resume. Fighting Whyte for whatever money is actually there - doubtful that it is what Eddie says it is - doesn't advance Wilder's career at all.

            Hearn is all about milking the public for the most money while denying them the best fights. Disagree? Well then what has Jacobs been doing other than milking HBO with C-level opponents? No Andrade, no Saunders, not even Andy Lee...just no-hopers like Arias and Sulecki. Same with Joshua, who won't fight Wilder for another year at least.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
              Those were Finkel's words and not Wilder's. After several weeks had gone by Deontay had expressed a wish to unify the titles against Klitschko but Wladimir wasn't interested.
              Do you have any prove about Klitchko not wanting to fight Wilder?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Holler View Post
                I think the devil is in the detail with Wilder's offer. He's not offering to take a smaller cut then if he wins he gets a larger one. He's talking about signing for two fights with AJ taking the larger share in the first and he taking the larger share in the second. So effectively 50/50, or perhaps, depending on how much business the result from the first fight drums up, even more to DW than to AJ across the two fights. Given the commercial disparity between the two there's no chance AJ will agree to this so effectively the fight will be dead in the water.
                This is not what Wilder said. This is you speaking like Eddie here. Wilder is confident that he will win the 1st fight; so he is saying whatever you offer me in the 1st fight, when (not if) I win it, you will take the same offer in the 2nd fight. What is wrong with that?

                Parker who is not even as popular as Wilder gets 55/45 in the 2nd fight should he win the 1st. That is a 20% or more raise from the current split of 30% or more that he currently is supposed to get.

                Wilder is not asking for a bigger split should he lose. Wilder is saying that he WILL NOT lose. He is that confident that he whoops AJ. So, he is saying put whatever crap you want in the contract. When I whoop your boy, I get the reverse in the rematch.

                Left to me, if I was Wilder, I will call Eddie's bluff and fight AJ one time. Winner takes all and let the loser fall back in line. Then, let's see who is scared. I am pretty certain that Eddie will not want a 1 fight contract. I am almost certain that everyone of AJ's contract has a rematch provision to protect him as always.

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                • #68
                  Ortiz is definitely a bigger risk than Whyte who struggled his last fight and couldn't put away a C Level fighter. I agree with Hearn though wilder should have took the easier fight with Whyte for 4 million. This fight with Ortiz is just Wilder proving he's not scared of Ortiz and if he decided not to fight Ortiz people would say he's ducking him. Props to Wilder for taking a dangerous Ortiz has the power to give him problems big time.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Gbenopix View Post
                    Do you have any prove about Klitchko not wanting to fight Wilder?
                    Yes I do and I can prove it. Here is Wilder's wish to unify against Wladimir and the second video is the one where W. Klitschko politely turning him down because of his level of opposition and mind you both of these videos date back to 2015 when Wilder first won the WBC title from Stiverne. Here they are:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xldI9UErXCU

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwEe6-5QHv0
                    Last edited by champion4ever; 02-27-2018, 11:45 AM.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by sotgoda View Post
                      This is not what Wilder said. This is you speaking like Eddie here. Wilder is confident that he will win the 1st fight; so he is saying whatever you offer me in the 1st fight, when (not if) I win it, you will take the same offer in the 2nd fight. What is wrong with that?

                      Parker who is not even as popular as Wilder gets 55/45 in the 2nd fight should he win the 1st. That is a 20% or more raise from the current split of 30% or more that he currently is supposed to get.

                      Wilder is not asking for a bigger split should he lose. Wilder is saying that he WILL NOT lose. He is that confident that he whoops AJ. So, he is saying put whatever crap you want in the contract. When I whoop your boy, I get the reverse in the rematch.

                      Left to me, if I was Wilder, I will call Eddie's bluff and fight AJ one time. Winner takes all and let the loser fall back in line. Then, let's see who is scared. I am pretty certain that Eddie will not want a 1 fight contract. I am almost certain that everyone of AJ's contract has a rematch provision to protect him as always.


                      First of all AJ is the A side,it's normal for him to always have rematch clause,second of all there is no where Wilder said he would take the same offer in rematch if he wins,he only said he would take the same offer in rematch knowing Eddie was willing to offer him two fights package,Wilder is just playing his fans,he is a smart man

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