Comments Thread For: Lomachenko vs. Linares: Arum Still Hopes To Get Fight Done

[Shadoww702]

Not just a replay not sure why folks keep ignoring the fact that HBO and golden boy are having a live show following the replay on may 12. By the way canelo's 2 ppv replays last year (Chavez and GGG) drew more viewers then beltran on ESPN a week ago and loma vs Marriaga on ESPN last year. Easy to say it's just a replay but a lot of people watch it and they are airing live fights that night as well.

By the way arum and the rest of the world knows HBO is replaying the biggest ppv of the year on this date. So why he offered a fight when he knew hbo and golden boy would be competing against themselve? Ask yourself if the shoe was on the other foot when Manny was still a huge ppv star would he ever let one of his best fighters fight on another network on the same day HBO was replaying a Pacquiao fight? Hell no he wouldnt. That would be a non starter and arum would scream the other promoter clearly doesn't want to make the fight by offering only that date.

If GGG and Canelo have a GREAT fight and the live fight after is something like Ali/Smith or Linares/??? That will have more viewers than ESPN's.

For the last SEVERAL years either HBO or Showtime has had a fight on Cinco De Mayo weekend and then the following weekend. And its gonna stay this way for many, many years. And Top Rank doesnt have any fighters I see right now that will take it away...

[bluebeam]

Not just a replay not sure why folks keep ignoring the fact that HBO and golden boy are having a live show following the replay on may 12. By the way canelo's 2 ppv replays last year (Chavez and GGG) drew more viewers then beltran on ESPN a week ago and loma vs Marriaga on ESPN last year. Easy to say it's just a replay but a lot of people watch it and they are airing live fights that night as well.

By the way arum and the rest of the world knows HBO is replaying the biggest ppv of the year on this date. So why he offered a fight when he knew hbo and golden boy would be competing against themselve? Ask yourself if the shoe was on the other foot when Manny was still a huge ppv star would he ever let one of his best fighters fight on another network on the same day HBO was replaying a Pacquiao fight? Hell no he wouldnt. That would be a non starter and arum would scream the other promoter clearly doesn't want to make the fight by offering only that date.

GBP doesnt have any fighters.

what live fight can they put on May 12 thats a bigger fight than loma vs linares?

they are cheating their fighter out of the biggest fight of his career.

i guarantee you that if linares vs loma doesnt happen on May 12 on espn. then linares wont be the one headlining that live GBP show on hbo.

arum mine as well say **** it and let GBP continue to put on **** cards like matthysse vs another no name on May 12

then linares will keep his wbc mandatory spot and then we will get another excuse from gbp on why mikey vs linares has to happen on hbo even though linares would be the opponent.

[kushking]

GBP doesnt have any fighters.

what live fight can they put on May 12 thats a bigger fight than loma vs linares?

they are cheating their fighter out of the biggest fight of his career.

i guarantee you that if linares vs loma doesnt happen on May 12 on espn. then linares wont be the one headlining that live GBP show on hbo.

arum mine as well say **** it and let GBP continue to put on **** cards like matthysse vs another no name on May 12

then linares will keep his wbc mandatory spot and then we will get another excuse from gbp on why mikey vs linares has to happen on hbo even though linares would be the opponent.

Your talking about sh cards then are defending what is a CLEAR cherrypick from arum so loma wins yet another paper wbo trinket against another no hoper whos coming off a rightful loss but arum owns the WBO so hes supposedly "champ"

Id rather watch ali vs smith or linares vs tbd than to watch loma crucify that no hoper beltron.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Which signs are those???

Top Rank is Beltran's promotor??
Beltrin has Top Ranks FAVORITE WBO Belt???

Both Arum and ODLH are both dragging their heels. Plus it’s an in-house fight, for the the WBO belt. It’s got Uncle Bob written all over it😂😂

[DuckAdonis]

Loma said he'd like to fight Easter aswell

If Linares is not possible maybe that fight could happen

[whoseyourdaddy]

Both Arum and ODLH are both dragging their heels. Plus it’s an in-house fight, for the the WBO belt. It’s got Uncle Bob written all over it😂😂

Exactly WBO stands for WBOB, Bob owns Varcarcell, WBO is the newest and least reputable entity of them all, the only one that refuses to even considered doing VADA tests. The IBF at least said they would consider it. That's why Bob is in bed with Paco Varcarcell.

[Boxing Logic]

Sweet! I hope cooler heads prevail. If Peter Nelson and Eric Gomez allow this to happen, I will take back much of my criticism of them. This is best for everyone.

[Boxing Logic]

Sure he does, he'll ***** and moan say linares was ducking or come up with a shitty excuse and he'll make Loma-beltran so Loma gets an easy belt at 135. Arum is good at getting his fighters leverage

Before Arum tried so hard to make Loma-Linares, many of y'all were saying you'd rather see Loma-Beltran because "Loma has been ducking pressure fighters since Salido, and Beltran is a 20 pound bigger version of Salido with way more power, all wrong for Loma." Now y'all are calling it an easy belt. Ray Beltran has said in many interviews he is bigger than Manny Pacquiao, who has beaten top welterweights. Lomachenko is a natural featherweight. NOTHING will come easy for Loma at 135. I'd obviously prefer the Linares fight, but I wish fans would stop contradicting themselves. As for Beltran-Moses, look Moses put up a hell of a fight. He still lost, legitimately, because he faded late and Beltran came on strong. Beltran showed he has great stamina to keep coming and coming even if he gets all cut up and hurt. Just like Salido. It's a very hard style for Lomachenko. The only success Moses had was because he had excellent speed, just like Lomachenko, but Moses is also naturally much bigger than Lomachenko.

So hopefully we get Loma-Linares, but both Linares and Beltran are way bigger than Loma, and while Linares is more talented than Beltran, Beltran has more of a pressure style where he can exert that size advantage, so either way, we should be in for a nice risky matchup for Loma's first fight at 135. As boxing fans we all need to stop criticizing boxers like Loma who are constantly trying to fight the best available opponent in their weight class, and if no one will fight them in their weight class, they fight the best available in the next weight class up, because those are the boxers who make the sport interesting and give fans fights they want to see. Boxers like Stevenson who never fight anyone, or guys like that, are the ones who never give us fights we want, and who as a result are ruining the sport.

It's very simple. Any boxing fan who wants the sport to get better, instead of worse, should support boxers who make good fights regularly, and criticize boxers who don't. Lomachenko is one of the good ones. As for Arum, he's pulled bull**** in the past, but when he has an elite boxer like Pacquiao or Loma, he has made lots of risky fights in short periods of time. He has a mandate from Lomachenko to always give him tough opponents when available, and so far in only 11 fights, Arum has done that more regularly than pretty much any other boxer/promoter combo in the sport, with Lomachenko specifically. So, I have no reason to think that Arum doesn't want to make Loma-Linares.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Exactly WBO stands for WBOB, Bob owns Varcarcell, WBO is the newest and least reputable entity of them all, the only one that refuses to even considered doing VADA tests. The IBF at least said they would consider it. That's why Bob is in bed with Paco Varcarcell.

They’re all corrupt as **** tbf, all as bad as each other IMO. They all only care about one thing and that’s money

[MisanthropicNY]

Golden Boy is demanding control of April 28, May 5 and May 12.

There are only four Saturdays in a month. HBO is only the third most important entity in US boxing. Why should HBO be able to demand three Saturdays in a row? Top Rank can't go May 19 because ESPN has the NBA playoffs that night, plus Showtime already has TWO major shows announced that night.

If not May 12, when? ESPN has big NBA games May 11, which they want to use to promote boxing on May 12. Top Rank has to go on the dates ESPN wants.

Golden Boy has Canelo duhhhhhh!