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on a 1-5 scale...how good of an opponent is current ortiz?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post
    i need to know beforehand

    i seem to remember when the fight got canceled the first time alot of lips moving about how wilder is scared cause ortiz is "live"

    i need to know now that were about a week away from reality happening....how good of an opponent is ortiz

    you are allowed half points to grade

    i know that guys often like to call guys scared of a guy......and accuse that guy of wanting no parts of an opponent...until it gets really close and reality sets in
    Ortiz is better than anyone drug cheat Joshua has fought.....

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    • #22
      In the last 4 years he has defeated Kayode (ik this got overturned but still, he KO'ed him easily), Jennings and Thompson rather easily, so he's not some scrub that you don't respect. Wilder better go in there, old man or not, and respect this guy's power in the first few rounds. Adjust to him, box him, then if you can, take him out.

      His power is definitely a 5, that's all you gotta know, and he's not a bad boxer skill-wise. I don't know what is his total rating, all I know is that his power is a 5 and I haven't seen him get KO'ed.

      I got Wilder on this one, but Ortiz is not some scrub who is being placed there to get KO'ed. This is a legit match-up.

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      • #23
        Four unless he takes a dive which we ALL should be surveying as fans and be VERY realistic about and be more prone of catchingshould unfortunately one take place with Haymon here .

        I think Ortiz a 40% chance to win .

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        • #24
          Really you have to put him 3rd behind the big 2.Now I think he should be banned but if your gonna rate him how can you rate any one above him besides those two.I know the Joshua fanboys are out hard trying to put him down NOW but before it was "why is Wilder not fightin him"Real fans should be rooting with everthing they got for both Joshua and Wilder because that's whats BEST FOR BOXING.Not Parker vs Ortiz(2x drug cheat).There is no future for Ortiz Joshua people will wait another year before thinking about it he wuill be 40 then as he tuns 39 a week or so after fight.

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          • #25
            5 because this is the first actual threat wilder has ever faced.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
              Four unless he takes a dive which we ALL should be surveying as fans and be VERY realistic about and be more prone of catchingshould unfortunately one take place with Haymon here .

              I think Ortiz a 40% chance to win .
              There is NO WAY he takes a dive.There is NO amount of money to pay him for what he WOULD be getting.Dives do not take place at this level as any weird betting would stop the books.And like I said the money he would make for winning is millions and millions.That sh ite only happens in low level Midwest fights and even there its been going out.You wanna know one way to make headlines and get banned.No need commissions in these state will except anyone.Trust me that sh ite don't take place very often at all and NEVER in big money fights its really impossible.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Geralt69 View Post
                Ortiz is better than anyone drug cheat Joshua has fought.....
                Lmao your calling Joshua the drug cheat?You really don't know sh ite.

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                • #28
                  Wilder has been a cherry picker up to now but he deserves a 1 for Ortiz. There really isn't any better heavyweight he could fight right now.

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                  • #29
                    'bout tree fiddy

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                    • #30
                      For Wilder that is a 5/5 given his current Resume!

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