Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson: Deontay Wilder Could Beat Me? I Don't Think So!

[The D3vil]

Isn't it so nice for you guys to always make excuses for why Mike Tyson lost? Tyson was always doing blows and hookers. How come it was in this fight now that he lost?

Is it outside the realm of reality that maybe doing blows and ****ing hookers may have helped Tyson more than it hurt him?

Also, whose fault was it that he was doing blows and ****ing hookers?

The only fact that matters here is that he lost (which is not a big deal - boxers lose and it's not the end of the world). The other fact of importance is that he struggled with tall guys who had long reach and could use it.

Dude, you think Cus D'Amato & Kevin Rooney were letting Tyson do blow and **** hookers before fights?

Seriously?

Are you high?

The fact of the matter is that Tyson only lost once those positive influences were out of his life and the negative ones Don King/Robin Givens/hangers-on were running it.

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Beyonce is gonna get kod by king kong....

[iamboxing]

Starting to hate this braggard who doesn't show respect for past fighters.

[SHO_RULEZ]

What era though? Before jail, Wilder has no shot . After jail, and before Holyfield, no shot. After Holyfield...Tyson has lost his confidence...Wilder may have a chance in that era, if thats what he's talking about.

[dan_cov]

All these lames including Tyson Fury cuddling the fraud Mike Tyson and one another for support! You chumps make me laugh!

Deontay is BOSSING the division right now, punking all his haters ; past and present! but nobody is going to do **** about it! BOMBSQUAD!!!

That avatar is killing me.
Pure quality from Groves robbing Eubanks celebratory pose.

[jjsmyth87]

Tyson's 1st set of opponents are listed below:

1. Hector Mercedes: final record of 1 win 10 losses (0-3 record before Tyson)

2. Trent Singleton 1 - 4 final record (1-3 record before Tyson)

Tyson outweighed his 1st 2 opponents by about 15 pounds, FYI...

3. Don Halpin 10 - 23 final record (10 - 18 record before Tyson)

4. Ricardo Spain 2 - 23 final record (1 - 0 record before Tyson); outweighed by 30+ pounds by Tyson.

5. John Alderson 6 -1 final record (3 - 0 before Tyson); he outweighed Tyson.

6. Larry Sims 3 - 19 final record (3 - 16 before Tyson)..

I could go on but it is not necessary. Check out boxrec and see the details yourself.

Ultimately, these are the people he fought. If Wilder fights these same guys - you call him a bum beater. But Tyson's opponents were worse. He outweighed over half of them too (I counted 20 or so out of his 1st 32 opponents) and their combined records until about mid 1985 or so.

Now, no one on Tyson's record has the height and reach of Wilder; neither the foot speed and agility. Don't write back ****** stuff before performing your analysis. The closest to Wilder's physical dimensions were:

Tony Tucker (6'5" and 82 inches) - went to UD;
Mitch Green (6'5" and 82 inches) - also went to UD;

These are the facts. They are not made up or opinions. Numbers don't lie. Based on these facts, my inference is that he will struggle with taller, rangier fighters.

Also, for this world beater 'Tyson' compare his records and the people he fought too against those that Wilder fought. Was Tyson also a bum-beater?

Most heavyweights of those days will be cruiserweights at best in this era. So, enough with the crap talk about Tyson demolishing Wilder. I expect some ****** responses as well from non-objective folks. Provide data to back up your assertion - not BS.

Your not giving the entire story at all. Wilder also fought mostly bums in the beginning of his career and not much has changed. Tyson beat Michael Spinks, Frank Bruno and most of the top boxers of his era while Wilders best win was against Bermaine "whale blubber" Stiverne who was possibly the worst out of shape slow heavyweight in History. Not to mention most of Tysons fights he was at a significant height and reach disadvantage. Who knows if Tyson would have beat Wilder, I say the 1986 version does. Your forgetting Tyson also had phenominal defense and footwork and his power was devastating. Not to mention ferocious he just kept throwing one bomb after another until he knocked his opponent out. Wilder is good but hes never been truly tested yet.

[jjsmyth87]

Dude, you think Cus D'Amato & Kevin Rooney were letting Tyson do blow and **** hookers before fights?

Seriously?

Are you high?

The fact of the matter is that Tyson only lost once those positive influences were out of his life and the negative ones Don King/Robin Givens/hangers-on were running it.

This is spot on. He let the fame and money get to his head and stopped training as hard and cared less about boxing as time went on. A prime hungry 1986 Mike Tyson would have beat Wilder into submission most likely

[hitking]

I still don’t see what the big deal is. Wilder, and any athlete worth their salt, is supposed to think he can beat everybody.

[Larry the boss]

Prime Tyson who used head movement and threw combos to the head and body was well disciplined and fought under control. When he lost his foundation he began throwing one shot at a time depending on his power. The head movement left and he was stationary and predictable, I give Wilder a shot to beat the Tyson from after his original camp left,but before then Tyson was to solid and fundamentally sound.

[Raggamuffin]

Wilder fan girl, say what? Can't

Eat a **** loser alt.