Comments Thread For: Arum Explains Why Lomachenko-Linares Being on HBO is a 'Waste'

[Shadoww702]

It was always going to be Beltran! Top Rank always talks about Fighter A, which is usually a fight you want to see, then they turn to Fighter B, which is usually an in-house fighter that you don't want to see as much as Fighter A! Next, it's always Fighter A's fault!

Man this site gets a lot of DUMMIES who fall for everything Arum says. He secured the location before the fighters. Thats because he already has the fighters ready. Its just NOT going to be Linares. This was a ruze since day 1.

[Shadoww702]

Top Rank is contractually bound to Espn so therefore Loma cannot fight on Hbo at all. Plus he is the A side by a huge margin and is being offered 5x his career best payday. If they dont accept the fight its on Golden Girl and Hbo.

And HBO offered MORE money so now what??? More excuses???

[Shadoww702]

espn isn't "free" & hbo would pay more to the fighters so Where is he right? The views?

HBO offered MORE for the fight. Which puts MORE $$$$ in the fighters pockets. No wonder why soo many Top Skank fighters end up BROKE and have tax problems.

['b']

Do we really? I want to see Garcia or Crawford.

Yeah that even in the cards right now, but the best fight for sure is Loma vs Garcia, Crawford ain't ever gonna happen unless he leaves TR

[Shadoww702]

dont front!! you hate him for that and because of certain fighters who is being promoted by him. keep it 100.

i've never seen or met anyone who is so sprung out on network and promotors lol. posters on here usually argue and debate about boxers they like, but you on the other hand, stays talking about arum and top rank.

Then lets stick to facts.

Fact HBO offered more $$$
Fact Linares is promoted by GB
Fact GB has a replay AND fight on HBO that same day...

Now lets here ypur facts???

[Shadoww702]

What sounds like a better fight on the 12th???

Loma vs. 7 loss Beltron???

Or seeing GGG or Canelo win again AND Liam Smith vs. SADAM Ali???

Easy one for me! I dont know who is gonna win against Smith/Ali bit I know DAMN sure Beltron is a punching bag, glorified sparring sesion

[Shadoww702]

LMAO at you Top Skank IDIOTS! Who keep BELIEVING Arum lie after lie...

We were PROMISED

Manny Pac vs. The Machine. Were getting 39 year old Pac vs. 37 year old Mike Alavardo.

Promised Linares vs. Loma. Getting Loma vs. Another Ubber Driver. But this one unlike Salido SUKS!!!

[Bronx2245]

oscar and floyd was gonna go out and be their own boss sooner or later. has nothing to do with promotors. if they left arum because he was ripping them off and it has nothing to do with them wanting to be their own boss, then why didnt they leave and sign with another promotor???

It's not just about wanting to be their own boss, and is has A LOT TO DO WITH THE PROMOTER! Once they saw how the promoter was ripping them off, they didn't trust promoters! Who would?

January 27, 2017:

"I started to notice a pattern in the way the negotiations would go down [with Top Rank] after I beat Orlando Salido," Garcia said.

Garcia claimed that Top Rank would not pay him the full negotiated amount after several fights, saying his opponents were to blame for a reduced purse.

"It was always a fight with them. I took a $100,000 pay cut on the Rocky Martinez fight, and I got about $150,000 less than what I was promised for the next fight. It started to add up," Garcia said.

While Garcia was unhappy with Top Rank, he figured his contract with the company would expire on Feb. 27, 2014, and he would be able to sign elsewhere. Top Rank, however, told him his contract automatically renewed following a title win or a successful title defense, which Garcia said would indefinitely keep him under an outdated deal he signed in 2009. So Garcia sued the company on April 8, 2014, and it took two years for the case to go to court. In the interim, Garcia made several unsuccessful attempts to resolve the matter with Top Rank as he remained inactive and helped his brother and father at the gym.

Following an unfavorable trial hearing, Top Rank was more open to a settlement and eventually came to terms with Garcia, who was freed from his contract without any compensation last April. Garcia agreed to the deal after denying Top Rank's request for confidentiality.

"I didn't feel I did anything wrong, but I was willing to pay to get out of my contract so I could get my career back on track, but they were never interested," Garcia said. "I thought the process would take a year, but after we got past a year, I was too invested not to see it through. After depositions, they offered to let me buy out my contract, but it was too late for that. I wasn't going to pay anything. I was going to show them that this little Mexican wasn't going to be some kid that they can just push around and do whatever they want."

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ing-back-years

[Bronx2245]

Man this site gets a lot of DUMMIES who fall for everything Arum says. He secured the location before the fighters. Thats because he already has the fighters ready. Its just NOT going to be Linares. This was a ruze since day 1.

It sure seems that way! Oscar and Arum are both shady, but I haven't seen a response from Top Rank, as to what Oscar had to say on Twitter:

February 15, 2018:

De La Hoya took to Twitter on Thursday to offer his thoughts on the situation.

Here’s what the retired six-division champion posted through an account that has 1.81 million followers:

1., Over the last days, there has been a lot of rumor and speculation about the potential fight between jorgelinares and VasylLomachenko. The facts are pretty clear.

2., jorgelinares wants this fight. GoldenBoyBoxing wants this fight. Mr. Honda wants this fight. And collectively we are doing everything we can to get these two champions into the ring.

3., We know of no bylaw, Ukrainian holiday or “magic day” in the words of Bob Arum that mandates that VasylLomachenko can only fight one day during the spring and summer month – May 12th.

4., While jorgelinares is happy to fight on any other date of the calendar, if VasylLomachenko absolutely, positively must fight on the 12th, we have a solution.

5., HBO is willing to pay more for the fight than is currently being offered. And they would do it on May 12th.

6., So, VasylLomachenko has three options. 1) Fight on May 12th on HBO 2) Fight on any other day on the calendar, 3) walk away from the fight all the fans of the sport want to see. I am hopeful he chooses one of the first two.

De La Hoya’s six Tweets on Thursday were in response in part to what Arum told BoxingScene.com earlier this week and Yahoo! Sports on Thursday.

http://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-lomachenko-make-more-versus-linares-on-hbo--125307

Why hasn't Top Rank clapped back?

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Neither side is 100% right.
The fact that people still take sides is what is wrong with boxing and why we will never improve the situation.

Why can't the fight just happen at a different time than the replay?
Arum also has to be open to have fights on HBO. He is just costing opportunities for his fighters.

At the end of the day we, the boxing fans, lose.