Groves arguably beats anyone at 160

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Canelo bodybags him. he didn't look that impressive. defense is trash. dont see it. and making 160 would probably make him perform worse.

Canelo couldn't even stop Chavez Jr. he doesn't have the power to hurt Groves. Stylistically a complete nightmare, Groves boxes from range, pumps out his jab, high work rate, you need to pressure Groves and even that's hard to do as he has the most active jab in boxing.


Eubank could barely touch Groves last night, far from a garbage defense, ggg's defense is worse. Can you imagine Groves' face getting busted up by a little 147lber like Brook? What a joke.

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The g tards resorting to pretending fighters don't move up in weight now.

Alvarez, Charlo, Andrade literally moved up in weight, but guys like ggg are completely incapable of moving up to a division they say is dead lmao.

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I don't care about pound for pound lists anyway! Totally subjective!

But if a bout is a mismatch in terms of 'SIZE' (which was your own initial point), then why should such a bout take place in the first place? Shouldn't boxing bouts be decided on skills with two guys the same size facing off against each other? Isn't that what pound for pound rankings are based on?

So now you're pretending 99% of Canelo's fights didn't occur below 160lbs? Canelo is much smaller compared to ggg than ggg is to GSG.

Guys like Vlasov, Bellew can move up 20lbs+ but a P4P fighter like ggg can't move up 8 even when he says he can.

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So now you're pretending 99% of Canelo's fights didn't occur below 160lbs? Canelo is much smaller compared to ggg than ggg is to GSG.

Guys like Vlasov, Bellew can move up 20lbs+ but a P4P fighter like ggg can't move up 8 even when he says he can.

When GGG and Canelo Alvarez met in the ring for their bout, they were the same size, period! That's all that matters!

And again, I don't care about pound for pound rankings. Most of those boxers are draining themselves. That's why they can move up to a weight division that they are more comfortable and natural in. And boxers grow bigger in size as they grow older up to certain age.

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Oh now 'styles make fights'. But when it comes to the cruiser weight division where Edison Miranda goes 12 rounds with one of the top cruiser weights in Dorticos but was stopped in the light heavyweight division before. Somehow that 'style makes fight' theory goes out of the window, right?

You're full of double standards / multiple standards!

LHW>Cruiser, I've said it before. Vlasov/Bellew weren't **** at LHW either, but they are at cruiser. RJJ couldn't go 5 with the punchers at LHW but he could at cruiser.

Glowacki just sc****d past a 6 win fighter built ike a LHW, what more do you want for examples?

Miranda doesn't possess any sort of style that stands out, he's a basic brawler, as basic as they come, there are 20+ guys at LHW at 168 flat out better than him.

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When GGG and Canelo Alvarez met in the ring for their bout, they were the same size, period! That's all that matters!

lmao so when they weigh the same suddenly they're the same size. height, reach, the fact that Alvarez had 0 wins over an active MW is thrown out the window.

ggg looked like he was wearing a damn backpack with the amount of muscle his back carried and had around 3" in height on little Alvarez.

There is a smaller size disparity between GSG and ggg than there is ggg and Canelo, facts.

I don't get it, isn't 168 a dead division?

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LHW>Cruiser, I've said it before. Vlasov/Bellew weren't **** at LHW either, but they are at cruiser. RJJ couldn't go 5 with the punchers at LHW but he could at cruiser.

Glowacki just sc****d past a 6 win fighter built ike a LHW, what more do you want for examples?

Miranda doesn't possess any sort of style that stands out, he's a basic brawler, as basic as they come, there are 20+ guys at LHW at 168 flat out better than him.

If Light heavyweights > cruiser weights. Why does the rule of boxing prevent boxers from both weight divisions competing against each other?

In those examples, those boxers move up to cruiser weight and they no longer remain a light heavyweight after they move up. Therefore, how is that evidence of light heavyweight > cruiser weight?

If anything, it's evidence of those boxers being able to compete better because they get to compete at their own weight division without draining themselves. That's a more plausible explanation than light heavyweight > cruiser weight which is totally baseless!

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lmao so when they weigh the same suddenly they're the same size. height, reach, the fact that Alvarez had 0 wins over an active MW is thrown out the window.

ggg looked like he was wearing a damn backpack with the amount of muscle his back carried and had around 3" in height on little Alvarez.

There is a smaller size disparity between GSG and ggg than there is ggg and Canelo, facts.

I don't get it, isn't 168 a dead division?

Height and reach divisions don't exist. Weight divisions do! So yes, if both weigh the same, then they are the same size.

Canelo Alvarez became big enough in size as he became older in age to make the middleweight division. That's all that matters!

Your speculative theory is irrelevant!