Groves arguably beats anyone at 160

[Mr Objecitivity]

Every person you named would literally have to die to get down to 160 so what's the point? I think the top lhw bully the top smw , cruiserweights would beat up and bully the lhw, and so on. This means nothing

That poster seemingly has an agenda and they try to convince themselves of nonsensical notions. Even things that are blatantly and evidently false!

[Madison Boxing]

could have sworn groves fights at 168? And is quite large at that weight too. Weird thread.

[icha]

His size, power, speed, activity, it'd be too much for most guys in the division as it was for Eubank/Murray. I think Benavidez & Zurdo would also arguably beat anybody at 160, I mean with their size, huge advantage. Even a guy like Brahmer would pose a serious threat to anybody.


The division is not as bad as people make it out to be. Truax is the weak link after beating a shot Degale (Jack literally beat the teeth out of him), and I believe he'll be replaced soon.

he wont even beat the scale at 160... he fights at 168 for a reason...

[Cutthroat]

Let's see:

Gennady Golovkin TKO 11 Martin Murray in a one sided blow out

George Groves UD older, declining Martin Murray in a close, competitive bout.

The most powerful puncher at middleweight in Golovkin destroys Martin Murray by stoppage but one of the most powerful punchers at 168 in George Groves fails to stop Martin Murray.

Of course, it's just one example and I prefer not to base my conclusion on one or two bouts.

Gennady Golovkin and Daniel Jacobs arguably beat George Groves in my opinion!

Murray=Range fighter
Groves=Range fighter

Styles makes fights, it's simple. I can't help you, your logic is all over the place.

[Johnston]

That poster seemingly has an agenda and they try to convince themselves of nonsensical notions. Even things that are blatantly and evidently false!

Yea man exactly.. he seems to do this consistently, same thing different situations. Definitely trying to push some agenda

[Cutthroat]

First you wrtite this:




Then you write this:



You are so full of contradictions that it's almost laughable now!

What? Didn't ggg say anybody from 168? This is a guy on the P4P list and he can't even move up just 1 division, a division they say is dead?

[tokon]

His size, power, speed, activity, it'd be too much for most guys in the division as it was for Eubank/Murray. I think Benavidez & Zurdo would also arguably beat anybody at 160, I mean with their size, huge advantage. Even a guy like Brahmer would pose a serious threat to anybody.


The division is not as bad as people make it out to be. Truax is the weak link after beating a shot Degale (Jack literally beat the teeth out of him), and I believe he'll be replaced soon.

Groves is already struggling to make 168, no way he can get to 160!

[Cutthroat]

Errol Spence could beat everybody at 140, Beterbiev could beat everybody at 168, Golovkin could beat everybody at 154, there's a reason for why you have weightclasses.

Golovkin couldn't even beat Alvarez. Charlo, Andrade, Alvarez are literally all from different weight classes.

There are multiple examples of fighters like Bellew/Vlasov moving up 20lbs+ to cruiser and becoming top 5 fighters. Loma, Garcia, Crawford, Pac, Mayweather, Ward, etc. moving up in weight.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Murray=Range fighter
Groves=Range fighter

Styles makes fights, it's simple. I can't help you, your logic is all over the place.

Oh now 'styles make fights'. But when it comes to the cruiser weight division where Edison Miranda goes 12 rounds with one of the top cruiser weights in Dorticos but was stopped in the light heavyweight division before. Somehow that 'style makes fight' theory goes out of the window, right?

You're full of double standards / multiple standards!

[Mr Objecitivity]

What? Didn't ggg say anybody from 168? This is a guy on the P4P list and he can't even move up just 1 division, a division they say is dead?

I don't care about pound for pound lists anyway! Totally subjective!

But if a bout is a mismatch in terms of 'SIZE' (which was your own initial point), then why should such a bout take place in the first place? Shouldn't boxing bouts be decided on skills with two guys the same size facing off against each other? Isn't that what pound for pound rankings are based on?