GGG ****ed up the Welterweight Division

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  • rickJen
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    #41
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    Please explain to me how Brook called Spence's bluff. Please be ready to have your fact straight because I have an Eddie Hearn video saying the exact opposite of what you're claiming. I'm ready
    Aren't you one of those who justified the Bundu fight?
    That the Brook fight can't possibly happen until the Bundu fight was done?
    Again, Spence is not the only PBC fighter.
    What would you want Brook to do while Spence was fighting a 41 yr old guy?
    Become a part time boxer like PBC fighters?
    The Bizier fight was completed while the Spence/Algieri fight was still being promoted.
    Meaning, other PBC fighters were available at that time for Brook to fight.
    Again, Garcia, Thurman, Broner didn't respond to Brook's call outs.
    GGG/Brook should not have happened had these pathetic boxing champions had balls to fight Brook.

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    • Motorcity Cobra
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      #42
      Originally posted by genrick
      Aren't you one of those who justified the Bundu fight?
      That the Brook fight can't possibly happen until the Bundu fight was done?
      Again, Spence is not the only PBC fighter.
      What would you want Brook to do while Spence was fighting a 41 yr old guy?
      Become a part time boxer like PBC fighters?
      The Bizier fight was completed while the Spence/Algieri fight was still being promoted.
      Meaning, other PBC fighters were available at that time for Brook to fight.
      Again, Garcia, Thurman, Broner didn't respond to Brook's call outs.
      Yes the Brook fight couldn't happen because Brook wasn't fighting him and they never sent an offer to Spence to fight Brook instead of Bundu. So to get Brook, Spence had to fight Bundu. This is how mandatory's work. Eddie admitted that he wasn't trying to make the Spence fight before he fought Bundu. You have no idea what you're talking about or how things work. You make up stuff in your head based on your feeling



      FACTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOUR FEELINGS

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      • TonyGe
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        #43
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Imagine if GGG didn't fight a welterweight and fought someone in his own weight class or moved up a weight class and had a one off fight. Jesse Vargas v. Kell Brook was a unification. The winner was mandated by the IBF to fight Errol Spence. Spence would have the WBO & IBF. Crawford would've had to fight either Thurman or Spence for a belt when he moved up.
        Come on fighters have been moving up in weight for a good payday since the sport started. If your so concerned about the integrity of the Welterweight division blame Brooke. He's the guy that chose to upset the applecart. By your reasoning he shouldn't have moved up.

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        • Motorcity Cobra
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          #44
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          He fought one welterweight in his whole career and a rather huge champion welterweight at that. Big deal. Now you are going to blame him for ***ing up the welterweight division? He tried to fight Saunders and Eubank first but they wanted none of it and Brook wanted to fight. Hagler, Monzon and Robinson all defended their middleweight titles against champion welterweights. It's not against the law. You just don't like GGG and use this bogus reason to trash a good champion.
          GGG has no respect to boxing

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            #45
            Originally posted by TonyGe
            Come on fighters have been moving up in weight for a good payday since the sport started. If your so concerned about the integrity of the Welterweight division blame Brooke. He's the guy that chose to upset the applecart. By your reasoning he shouldn't have moved up.
            Even GGG said this isn't good for boxing. He agrees with me


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            • stealthradon
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              #46
              Or you could blame BJS who said no to 2 million pound sterling to fight GGG.

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              • rickJen
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                #47
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                Yes the Brook fight couldn't happen because Brook wasn't fighting him and they never sent an offer to Spence to fight Brook instead of Bundu. So to get Brook, Spence had to fight Bundu. This is how mandatory's work. Eddie admitted that he wasn't trying to make the Spence fight before he fought Bundu. You have no idea what you're talking about or how things work. You make up stuff in your head based on your feeling



                FACTS>>>>>>>>>>>>>YOUR FEELINGS
                Do you want to me to provide links when
                Brook was calling out Garcia, Thurman, Broner
                right after the Bizier fight?
                Spence was fighting Algieri.
                Had one of the part-time boxers responded,
                GGG vs Brook would not have happened.
                Stop this nitpicking crap.

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                • Illmatic94
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  Stop with the lies. Vargas had already agreed to the fight and was cool with his purse.
                  Hearn said he was working on both fights simultaneously and thought he had both done. He had made a deal with Top Rank for Vargas and Top Rank in turn cut a deal with Vargas under which he was to receive $1.7 million of the $2.2 million Hearn would pay Top Rank.

                  It was not easy to get done as Vargas sought extra perks in addition to repeatedly upping his asking price until agreeing to $1.7 million and signing a contract to fight Brook.

                  "I really wanted to make Brook-Vargas," Hearn said. "Vargas wanted so much money, and rightfully so, so we agreed to pay Top Rank the $2.2 million, plus 50 percent of the U.S. TV rights [for a fight HBO planned to televise]. When we looked at the financials of the show we probably needed to do 350,000 pay-per-view buys [on Sky Box Office in the U.K.] for Brook to make the right money, similar to what Vargas was getting. I don't believe it would have done that because nobody [had] heard of Vargas in the U.K."

                  Then Brexit happened, as the United Kingdom voted in June to exit the European Union, a move that sent financial markets haywire and crushed the value of the British currency.

                  Hearn estimated that the impact of Brexit would probably cost him about $300,000 on the Brook-Vargas deal, so he went back to Top Rank chairman Bob Arum, explained the situation and said he needed to reduce the money.

                  "Now we had a little less than $2 million and asked Jessie to take 10 percent less," Arum said.
                  http://www.espn.com.au/boxing/story/...brook-was-made

                  even if GGG vs Eubank had not been cancelled chances are Vargas/Brook never happens because Vargas wasn't likely to accept a less amount than he thought he was getting. he himself admitted to that. it was destined to fall apart due to money. what he's signing in those pictures was before he was asked to take a pay cut.

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                  • Morrie ATG
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                    #49
                    GOtta admit the thread title is gangsta! Lol

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                    • Morrie ATG
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                      #50
                      How could Bummelo defend the WBC against Khan below 155?

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