I appreciate the discussion and most especially the slow motion!!!
Did anyone else think Eubank was knocked down?
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Here are the rules as quoted from Referee rules and guidelines: The Bold Part tells us what we need to know. It does not appear to matter if his glove touched or not, because his knee sure did!
Knockdown
An official knockdown is ruled in boxing when a fighter is punched and:
a) a part of his/her body other than the feet touch the canvas (such as his butt or glove)
b) when a fighter is being held up by the ropes (i.e. the fighter would have fallen had the ropes not been there)
c) when a fighter is hanging on, through or over the ropes and
d) cannot protect himself and, for whatever reason, is lodged on a position where he can't fall
A slip or fall to the canvas by a boxer, resulting in any of the above conditions, is not a knockdown.
Note: The Association of Boxing Commissions Referee Rules and Guidelines state: "Before a bout can resume after a boxer has been knocked down, fallen or slipped to the floor of the ring, the Referee shall wipe his gloves." The referee wipes the gloves on his shirt to remove any dirt or debris that might have gotten on the fighter's gloves from the canvas.
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If the knee touches the canvas and you're hit by a punch it's a knockdown. But Eubanks got up so fast that it's possible the ref didn't see it and since boxing doesn't believe in instant replay couldn't determine otherwise.Comment
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He went to the canvas 3 times, twice from punches early in the fight which the ref did not rule on as has been shown and discussed and once later on as a result from a wild swing slip. That's why I originally said I personally felt it was a shutout with 2 10/8 rounds in the main fight night thread.
With regards to the referee, I do think Junior pissed him off. He was being quite lax with him initially and pulled Groves a few times then the second time Groves bullied him through the ropes the ref called time to berate Groves however Jr didn't see the call and kept going, pushing the ref resulting in him getting chastised instead of Groves and I did feel like after that the ref kinda let Groves away with what he wanted on the inside/at the ropes. I guess it was another level of Juniors inexperience shining through.Comment
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He went to the canvas 3 times, twice from punches early in the fight which the ref did not rule on as has been shown and discussed and once later on as a result from a wild swing slip. That's why I originally said I personally felt it was a shutout with 2 10/8 rounds in the main fight night thread.
With regards to the referee, I do think Junior pissed him off. He was being quite lax with him initially and pulled Groves a few times then the second time Groves bullied him through the ropes the ref called time to berate Groves however Jr didn't see the call and kept going, pushing the ref resulting in him getting chastised instead of Groves and I did feel like after that the ref kinda let Groves away with what he wanted on the inside/at the ropes. I guess it was another level of Juniors inexperience shining through.Comment
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