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  • Johnston
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    #51
    Originally posted by revelated
    Don't matter whether you as a fight fan agree with the #1. The stats on fight night are all that matter. They had the guys at the top - who knows why? Who cares? Fact is, they were both ranked at the top when they fought.


    In any event, none of this matters. This isn't about Eubank, it's about Groves. He got HANDLED TWICE by Carl Froch - sparked. If Carl Froch is able to spark this guy twice what makes people think either Eubank - Junior OR Senior - wouldn't piece the guy up too when both have higher KO ratios??

    Silliness. Overrating George Groves severely.
    How can he be #1 at anything if he was fresh off a loss to another unknown guy who was 13-2, and five fights earlier post to someone 13-10? Idc what boxrec says dos santos was a nobody who ended up losing another 8 straight

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      #52
      Originally posted by Johnston
      How can he be #1 at anything if he was fresh off a loss to another unknown guy who was 13-2, and five fights earlier post to someone 13-10? Idc what boxrec says dos santos was a nobody who ended up losing another 8 straight
      How was Manny mandatory for Floyd's title fresh off going the distance against Algieri, getting knocked out cold by Marquez, and losing to Timothy Bradley?

      Who the hell knows. Point is it happened.

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        #53
        Originally posted by 1hourRun
        That poster Revelate is a boxrec poser! I owned him enough that he put me on ignore - I stay owning his ass! hehe.
        Lol yea he clearly is, trying to argue that some nobody was a good win..

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          #54
          Originally posted by revelated
          How was Manny mandatory for Floyd's title fresh off going the distance against Algieri, getting knocked out cold by Marquez, and losing to Timothy Bradley?

          Who the hell knows. Point is it happened.
          If your gonna try and make some comparison of this dos Santos guy and manny I don't know what to tell you. Marquez and Bradley are leagues above some unknown Craig trotter. Ffs algieri is better then anyone this guys faced outside of eubank

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            #55
            Originally posted by Johnston
            Lol yea he clearly is, trying to argue that some nobody was a good win..
            Nobody said it was a good win, I said THAT Eubank sparks George Groves, because that was his peak KO period. Dos Santos was just the best of them.

            Again, it's about Groves and the fact he's susceptible to getting knocked out.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Johnston
              If your gonna try and make some comparison of this dos Santos guy and manny I don't know what to tell you. Marquez and Bradley are leagues above some unknown Craig trotter. Ffs algieri is better then anyone this guys faced outside of eubank
              Manny LOST! That's the point being made here. You're showing your bias.

              "This fighter only fought bums but was on a knockout streak but who cares about their skill?"

              "This fighter lost to good fighters so it doesn't matter that they lost/got knocked out, they still deserve it"

              Come on man, you can't seriously believe that.

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                #57
                Originally posted by revelated
                Manny LOST! That's the point being made here. You're showing your bias.

                "This fighter only fought bums but was on a knockout streak but who cares about their skill?"

                "This fighter lost to good fighters so it doesn't matter that they lost/got knocked out, they still deserve it"

                Come on man, you can't seriously believe that.
                If some fighter loses to Cletus seldon and another loses to Errol Spence, I'll take less away from the guy who lost to Spence vs the guy who lost to seldon. Your argument is extremely weak and I don't know how your trying to justify this

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Johnston
                  If some fighter loses to Cletus seldon and another loses to Errol Spence, I'll take less away from the guy who lost to Spence vs the guy who lost to seldon. Your argument is extremely weak and I don't know how your trying to justify this
                  Okay, then by that logic, Mike Tyson's a bum because the first time he went up in class against Quick Tillis, he went the distance. Against a straight up journeyman. And Tyson's textbook punch slipping against Reggie Gross meant nothing because Gross was fresh off a loss against Tillman and had been knocked out by bums.

                  Because of those, Tyson's a bum. That's what you're essentially saying?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Okay, then by that logic, Mike Tyson's a bum because the first time he went up in class against Quick Tillis, he went the distance. Against a straight up journeyman. And Tyson's textbook punch slipping against Reggie Gross meant nothing because Gross was fresh off a loss against Tillman and had been knocked out by bums.

                    Because of those, Tyson's a bum. That's what you're essentially saying?
                    Dude this argument is just ridiculous. What poo t are you trying to make? This dos Santos guy was a nobody who fought nobodies and lost to nobodies and you are trying to make it as if it was a decent win for eubank. It wasn't, you can try and spin it how you want but nothing you can say will change my mind because in reality dos Santos was nothing more then a journey men

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Johnston
                      Dude this argument is just ridiculous. What poo t are you trying to make? This dos Santos guy was a nobody who fought nobodies and lost to nobodies and you are trying to make it as if it was a decent win for eubank. It wasn't, you can try and spin it how you want but nothing you can say will change my mind because in reality dos Santos was nothing more then a journey men
                      The point is, you dismiss fighters because of who the letter org picked for them to beat. When said fighter goes out there and does what they're supposed to do, you wave it off. But only when it's certain fighters. That's the issue.

                      Fast forward years and you take a guy like George Groves who got KNOCKED OUT TWICE by Carl Froch and all of a sudden, Eubank can't beat him? Despite needing one punch to knock a guy out?

                      Maybe you've never boxed before, but even the biggest bums don't go down off one punch. That takes timing and power. All you need to take Groves out is timing and power.

                      Nobody criticized Hamed despite him fighting nobodies besides Barrera.

                      Nobody criticized Valero for fighting nobodies beside DeMarco.

                      Nobody criticized Pipino Cuevas despite fighting nobodies besides Duran and Hearns - both of whom damn near killed the guy.

                      Yet Eubank somehow gets flack?

                      Bull****. Period.

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