Comments Thread For: George Groves Baits Eubank Jr: I Would Have Beaten Your Dad!

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you can't compare their rankings from then and now. Nunn, Toney and RJJ were way better than the current top of the class. Eubank Sr in his prime vs Groves? Double G couldn't shine Eubank's fancy ass shoes.

Yes I said this, speaking of shoes Eubum sr. moved like he had two left feet, apparently he passed this trait down to his son.

Well...both Eubank Sr. and Groves were/are B Level fighters at their best....so edge to Eubank Sr....but I say flip a coin, mateys!

For scale and to turn the knife...Andre Ward COMPLETELY OUTLEAGUES and TORTURES both of them...along with their nationalistic garbage fans' lives and souls...

The Legend returns!

Who the **** was Dos Santos though?
A typical easy hand picked fight for Eubank to look good against.

That poster comments are hollowed, a complete waste of time reading his crap.

I agree with a fair bit of that. Eubank Sr. was a decent and very tough fighter, no doubt but history judges him more kindly, especially in the UK, because he was a character and flamboyant and was involved in some big domestic scraps.

The truth is that he really wasn't on a higher level than the likes of Groves when it comes to world level boxing. Maybe around that level. The name of Eubank Sr. is greater than his actual ability.

Not saying he wasn't a good fighter, he was, but for someone who talks about being a warrior, he certainly was well aware of his limitations and level and never pushed to fight the very best guys. He was more than happy doing his own thing v weak opponents or big payday domestic fights. Can't say that about Groves, i think he would jump in the ring with anyone, win or lose.

A lot of people don't want to hear it though because they have rose tinted glasses about some sort of golden era with domestic dust ups in the UK, so they're blind to the fact that some guys like Eubank were not real top fighters like they're portrayed.

Best post of the thread.

I’d pick Groves to beat Eubank Sr and I’m actually a fan of Sr, Sr was a great personality and great for british boxing but was a very limited B level fighter if we’re being completely honest. I think Groves outboxes him but wouldn’t be surprised if Sr caught up to him and stopped him late, cause we all know how unreliable Groves’ gas tank is.

RJJ94 keeping it real.

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SMDH

Dos Santos was #1 ranked when they fought. Hand picked? Eubank took the top of the food chain when it was available, just like Crawford did against Indongo. Don't blame the fighters, blame the matchmakers.

"At the end of the day..."

Eubank at that time in his career was a beast and Groves wouldn't have survived 6 rounds. Remember, this is the guy Froch tucked in for the night. TWICE.

No 1 ranked by who?

I'm not sure who would have won out of Eubank and Groves, but I'd probably go with Eubank, on account of his toughness, but he definitely didn't 'take the top of the food chain'.

He avoided hard fights wherever possible. Watch 'The Gloves Are Off - Super Middleweights'.
He says himself in that that he never wanted to fight Toney or Jones.

He also swerved Mcallum when he was calling Eubank out.

Barry Hearn has said when he was WBO champion, he had a list of conditions for title defences - 'No one unbeaten, No one under 30, No one over 6 ft tall, No southpaws'.

I know he was brave when he had to be in tough fights, but he always wanted the path of least resistance.

[Tonyu]

I've always liked Groves but with such rubbish I'm going off him. Groves you couldn't beat Jack you are dillusional. calzaghe,Eubank,Benn, Watson, Collins, Toney,Roy Jones Jr,Kessler and even Pavlik would own you. You really have taken the idiotic spoon with such a ridiculous statement Eubank Snr would of KO'd your ass.

[stefjonno1]

I remember watching Eubank and thinking he lost atleast 3 fights before he actually lost. I can understand Groves thinking he would have beat him.

[DuckAdonis]

Benn is a better win than any of Groves wins

[Combat Talk Radio]

No 1 ranked by who?

Fairly certain it was WBC, since Eubank was International champion for the fight even though it wasn't up.

I'm not sure who would have won out of Eubank and Groves, but I'd probably go with Eubank, on account of his toughness, but he definitely didn't 'take the top of the food chain'.

The top of the food chain isn't dictated by you OR him. If the org feels like a guy like Reginaldo Dos Santos is #1, that's the way it goes.

Or better said, like Floyd, Manny all of a sudden becoming the mandatory for his belt after losing to Bradley, getting knocked out by Marquez and going the distance with a lightweight. The letter orgs are dirty as they come - you know that.

Don't change the fact Dos Santos was #1 when they fought.

He avoided hard fights wherever possible. Watch 'The Gloves Are Off - Super Middleweights'.
He says himself in that that he never wanted to fight Toney or Jones.

He also swerved Mcallum when he was calling Eubank out.

Barry Hearn has said when he was WBO champion, he had a list of conditions for title defences - 'No one unbeaten, No one under 30, No one over 6 ft tall, No southpaws'.

I know he was brave when he had to be in tough fights, but he always wanted the path of least resistance.

I never said he didn't duck. I'm on record saying Eubank ducked Jones.

Don't change the fact that Froch put Groves to sleep twice, and if Froch could manage to pull that off - FROCH - Groves would have had Simply No Chance against Simply The Best.

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Fairly certain it was WBC, since Eubank was International champion for the fight even though it wasn't up.



The top of the food chain isn't dictated by you OR him. If the org feels like a guy like Reginaldo Dos Santos is #1, that's the way it goes.

Or better said, like Floyd, Manny all of a sudden becoming the mandatory for his belt after losing to Bradley, getting knocked out by Marquez and going the distance with a lightweight. The letter orgs are dirty as they come - you know that.

Don't change the fact Dos Santos was #1 when they fought.



I never said he didn't duck. I'm on record saying Eubank ducked Jones.

Don't change the fact that Froch put Groves to sleep twice, and if Froch could manage to pull that off - FROCH - Groves would have had Simply No Chance against Simply The Best.

What?? I never said Eubank wouldn't beat Groves, and I never said Froch didn't stop Groves twice. I'm a big Froch fan, I was cheering for him in those fights.

The Groves v Eubank Sr debate isn't what I was posting about.

I was saying knocking out Dos Santos wasn't a particularly impressive win, and asking you who was he no 1 with?

He certainly wasn't a well known fighter that I know of, without checking his boxrec.

You're answer seems to be you don't actually know, and you're bluffing that you do.

'pretty sure it was the WBC'.

So you don't know, you're just backing Eubank Sr. and pretending you do.

Like I said, I would probably pick him to beat Groves. That doesn't change the fact that he avoided hard fights in his career when he could do. That's widely known. He was a very good fighter when he had to be, yes, but that's not what I was saying.

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Yes I said this, speaking of shoes Eubum sr. moved like he had two left feet, apparently he passed this trait down to his son.

The Legend returns!

That poster comments are hollowed, a complete waste of time reading his crap.

Best post of the thread.

RJJ94 keeping it real.

Wtf is that supposed to mean?? My comments are hollowed??

Was Dos Santos a well known world class middleweight? Eubank's promoter has gone on record more than once saying Eubank wanted the easiest fights possible for his WBO defences. He had a list of conditions ffs.

Go **** yourself you prick.

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Wtf is that supposed to mean?? My comments are hollowed??

Was Dos Santos a well known world class middleweight? Eubank's promoter has gone on record more than once saying Eubank wanted the easiest fights possible for his WBO defences. He had a list of conditions ffs.

Go **** yourself you prick.

I was talking about that poster you were quoting. You hurt my feeling for no reason.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I was saying knocking out Dos Santos wasn't a particularly impressive win, and asking you who was he no 1 with?

He certainly wasn't a well known fighter that I know of, without checking his boxrec.

You're answer seems to be you don't actually know, and you're bluffing that you do.

'pretty sure it was the WBC'.

So you don't know, you're just backing Eubank Sr. and pretending you do.

I shouldn't have to do this for you.