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  • Scipio2009
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    #151
    Originally posted by killakali
    its funny u bring up a tax bill. When will floyd be back in the ring (or octagon) to finish paying off his McGregor taxes looolol.

    U say when Manny pays back his advances i bet Broner is fighting Omar for free. But mannys advances have nothing to do with what he earned. It doesn’t make how much he earned for the fight less. He just took part of it up front. It’s a 60-40 split no matter how u slide it.

    And don’t think floyd isn’t buying a lot of seats for his crew. He bought way more than 300 for the Berto, Maidana and guerrero fights. For most of his fights he spends a couple million on tickets. So does Manny. It’s standard
    Floyd delayed his tax payment to avoid having to exit any of his investments to pay a bill, the balance on the count was paid with a piece of his guarantee, and the McGregor bill likely gets paid with another sizable piece of Floyd's guarantee (even if you assume something ridiculous, Floyd's guarantee basically covered the tax bill, and he still likely made another $100-$150m on the back-end of the event. The whole Floyd thing was basically a one-month story.

    Pacquiao's been chased down for his tax payment for basically 8 years at this point, to the point that the amount owed is now $75m and the hope of just having the tax bill forgiven by a political supporter are so far removed that now he's taking about a settlement, lol.

    Broner is a screw-up, living hand to mouth on $1m+ purses; sad part is that Pacquiao's also a screw-up, except that he's doing it with $15m purses while having maybe 2-3 fights left in him, lol.

    Floyd has a crew, but he's not giving away 300 tickets to ****, for the simple fact that he's selling the ****ing tickets. Mayweather Promotions is on the darn marquee, with Floyd staking his own money off the event.

    Pacquiao has no such issue, because it's not his money at risk.

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      #152
      Originally posted by killakali
      its funny u bring up a tax bill. When will floyd be back in the ring (or octagon) to finish paying off his McGregor taxes looolol.

      U say when Manny pays back his advances i bet Broner is fighting Omar for free. But mannys advances have nothing to do with what he earned. It doesn’t make how much he earned for the fight less. He just took part of it up front. It’s a 60-40 split no matter how u slide it.

      And don’t think floyd isn’t buying a lot of seats for his crew. He bought way more than 300 for the Berto, Maidana and guerrero fights. For most of his fights he spends a couple million on tickets. So does Manny. It’s standard
      Floyd delayed his tax payment to avoid having to exit any of his investments to pay a bill, the balance on the count was paid with a piece of his guarantee, and the McGregor bill likely gets paid with another sizable piece of Floyd's guarantee (even if you assume something ridiculous, Floyd's guarantee basically covered the tax bill, and he still likely made another $100-$150m on the back-end of the event. The whole Floyd thing was basically a one-month story.

      Pacquiao's been chased down for his tax payment for basically 8 years at this point, to the point that the amount owed is now $75m and the hope of just having the tax bill forgiven by a political supporter are so far removed that now he's taking about a settlement, lol.

      Broner is a screw-up, living hand to mouth on $1m+ purses; sad part is that Pacquiao's also a screw-up, except that he's doing it with $15m purses while having maybe 2-3 fights left in him, lol.

      Floyd has a crew, but he's not giving away 300 tickets to ****, for the simple fact that he's selling the ****ing tickets. Mayweather Promotions is on the darn marquee, with Floyd staking his own money off the event.

      Pacquiao has no such issue, because it's not his money at risk.

      Manny Pacquiao is literally going to be fighting "Mile High" Mike Alvarado for maybe $5m, and you want to talk about Floyd coming out of retirement, to fight a novice pro fighter in a rematch, for another $100m? lol

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        #153
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Golden Boy is putting on the Canelo PPV on Cinco De Mayo, with HBO airing a show the following week.

        You act like there are only certain special days when you can put on a PPV, lol.

        If ESPN has only offered Top Rank three dates for their cards, fine; pick the ESPN date that works best for Horn-Crawford, and stage a Top Rank PPV (using ESPN talent) for the week prior. Top Rank has other fighters for the other ESPN dates.

        There seem to be gentlemanly rules about not staging two PPV events in one billing cycle, but that's it.
        espn offered them 2 espn dates and 1 espn ppv date. Get it? ESPN has to market the ppv. Has other programming going on that it may not want to go against the ppv on other dates too. Get it?

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          #154
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          Floyd delayed his tax payment to avoid having to exit any of his investments to pay a bill, the balance on the count was paid with a piece of his guarantee, and the McGregor bill likely gets paid with another sizable piece of Floyd's guarantee (even if you assume something ridiculous, Floyd's guarantee basically covered the tax bill, and he still likely made another $100-$150m on the back-end of the event. The whole Floyd thing was basically a one-month story.

          Pacquiao's been chased down for his tax payment for basically 8 years at this point, to the point that the amount owed is now $75m and the hope of just having the tax bill forgiven by a political supporter are so far removed that now he's taking about a settlement, lol.

          Broner is a screw-up, living hand to mouth on $1m+ purses; sad part is that Pacquiao's also a screw-up, except that he's doing it with $15m purses while having maybe 2-3 fights left in him, lol.

          Floyd has a crew, but he's not giving away 300 tickets to ****, for the simple fact that he's selling the ****ing tickets. Mayweather Promotions is on the darn marquee, with Floyd staking his own money off the event.

          Pacquiao has no such issue, because it's not his money at risk.
          Floyd still purchases a lot of tickets and gives them away. Manny buys tickets too and gives them away. Elite level fighters always do this. It is common practice. Floyd vs Maidana 1, 2, Guerrero, Berto, Marquez, were not sellouts. He buys tickets but again all A list fighters do this. Bradley bought a block of tickets for his fights vs Pac and Marquez. It is common in the industry and is expected. After they get their 10-20 free tickets they buy up a few hundred thousand dollars worth of tickets for someone like bradley and a million dollars or more worth for someone like floyd or manny

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            #155
            Originally posted by Scipio2009
            Floyd delayed his tax payment to avoid having to exit any of his investments to pay a bill, the balance on the count was paid with a piece of his guarantee, and the McGregor bill likely gets paid with another sizable piece of Floyd's guarantee (even if you assume something ridiculous, Floyd's guarantee basically covered the tax bill, and he still likely made another $100-$150m on the back-end of the event. The whole Floyd thing was basically a one-month story.

            Pacquiao's been chased down for his tax payment for basically 8 years at this point, to the point that the amount owed is now $75m and the hope of just having the tax bill forgiven by a political supporter are so far removed that now he's taking about a settlement, lol.

            Broner is a screw-up, living hand to mouth on $1m+ purses; sad part is that Pacquiao's also a screw-up, except that he's doing it with $15m purses while having maybe 2-3 fights left in him, lol.

            Floyd has a crew, but he's not giving away 300 tickets to ****, for the simple fact that he's selling the ****ing tickets. Mayweather Promotions is on the darn marquee, with Floyd staking his own money off the event.

            Pacquiao has no such issue, because it's not his money at risk.

            Manny Pacquiao is literally going to be fighting "Mile High" Mike Alvarado for maybe $5m, and you want to talk about Floyd coming out of retirement, to fight a novice pro fighter in a rematch, for another $100m? lol
            and Manny is a philanthropist helping the poor in his country while Broner already has so many advances his next fight is almost for free. And Broner with a loss to Figueroa will be down to low 6 figure purses instead of the million he is getting for Figs

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              #156
              Originally posted by killakali
              i just gave u the dates they have Moron. For ppv and live Espn. U act like they can and will put a ppv on just any date. Which they won’t. Get a clue.
              So, you are now going to try and argue that they have no plans on re-airing the PPV for the broader audience? lol

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                #157
                Originally posted by killakali
                espn offered them 2 espn dates and 1 espn ppv date. Get it? ESPN has to market the ppv. Has other programming going on that it may not want to go against the ppv on other dates too. Get it?
                You're ****** if you honestly think that, in your own words, ESPN is going to put up the money for the PPV, and then choose not to re-air it to their broader audience, lol.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  Floyd still purchases a lot of tickets and gives them away. Manny buys tickets too and gives them away. Elite level fighters always do this. It is common practice. Floyd vs Maidana 1, 2, Guerrero, Berto, Marquez, were not sellouts. He buys tickets but again all A list fighters do this. Bradley bought a block of tickets for his fights vs Pac and Marquez. It is common in the industry and is expected. After they get their 10-20 free tickets they buy up a few hundred thousand dollars worth of tickets for someone like bradley and a million dollars or more worth for someone like floyd or manny
                  Floyd didn't buy 300 tickets; heck, I doubt that he even bought 100 tickets, lol. Still, that's beside the point because any tickets that Floyd gave away came out of the allotment for Mayweather Promotions, most of which likely were then flipped and sold to resellers anyway.

                  Pacquiao flew in 300 people, put them up in Los Angeles during his camp, transported 300 people to Vegas with him for fight week, paid for 300 tickets, put up 300 people in rooms across Las Vegas, and whatever other expenses that come with traveling with that many people (feeding everyone, possibly getting clothes for the event, tourist stuff in Vegas, etc).

                  Trying to now spin that as normal if ridiculous.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    and Manny is a philanthropist helping the poor in his country while Broner already has so many advances his next fight is almost for free. And Broner with a loss to Figueroa will be down to low 6 figure purses instead of the million he is getting for Figs
                    Broke is still broke. Calling someone a philanthropist, when they literally have a current debt hanging over their head worth basically everything that they currently own, is hilarious.

                    Pacquiao looked old in the Horn fight, and it's been rumored that he's literally spent no time in the gym with Freddie, yet he's got a fight in April in the works. Just imagine if Alvarado pull off the win, lol.

                    Pacquiao would take the final hit in his status as a bankable fight, while still owing $75m in taxes.

                    Have fun with that, lol.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      You're ****** if you honestly think that, in your own words, ESPN is going to put up the money for the PPV, and then choose not to re-air it to their broader audience, lol.
                      u must not read well or lack comprehension skills. There is only one ppv date. That is April 14th. Period.

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