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  • davidw9785
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    #41
    Originally posted by KillaMane26
    Im done hearing Mikey talk about these fanrasy fights....That Broner win was overrated asf.
    How so? Broner came in that fight the best shape of his life talking about how he was ready to show his quality against Mikey. And then Mikey connected all night and looked a level or two above Broner. No surprise he didn't get the KO; Broner can take a beating as good as anybody out there (ask his daddy Maidnana).

    So how is moving up and schooling a top-shape Broner overrated af? Please tell me.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Shadoww702
      Why does some guys keep overrating Linares??? The dude was Knocked out in round 1, 2, and recentl 11 by a Broner leftover. And one of the guys who TKO'd him just was KO'd by a guy with a 0-1-1 record...

      All you guys that are claiming Mikey is ducking Easter or Linares because hes scurred better back that talk up with something if/when he fights them. Because I will match anyone $4$ in those fights.
      Its not them overrating Linares. Theyre just trying to build up these guys to say Garcia is “ducking”.
      If everyone outright said Linares had no chance, that wouldn't be fun for Garcia haters now would it? How can they get excited if they dont believe anyone around his weightclass can beat him?

      Its not Garcia ducking specific opponents. Hes ducking whoever hes not fighting at any given time. This dude gets them scared and triggers them pretty much every time he opens his mouth. Theres certain guys in older, recent Garcia threads that have like 25+ posts on their own in each one.

      Haters gonna hate.
      The same people saying “who dat?” about Lipinets, saying fight name fighter like Linares instead, will not give credit and just say hes ducking someone else after he plasters Linares into a fine paste on the canvas.

      The sad part is, that Lipinets will probably end up doing better than Linares as at least he can take somewhat of a punch. Linares IMO wont even be able to outbox Garcia anyway. Maybe during the first two setup rounds Garcia usually takes. Garcia has a much better jab, that should force Linares to take more chances and risk his glass chin failing him again. 1-3 rounds max of analysing him, then he’ll put him out to pasture.

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      • davidw9785
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        #43
        Originally posted by glenn mcrory
        Its not them overrating Linares. Theyre just trying to build up these guys to say Garcia is “ducking”.
        If everyone outright said Linares had no chance, that wouldn't be fun for Garcia haters now would it? How can they get excited if they dont believe anyone around his weightclass can beat him?

        Its not Garcia ducking specific opponents. Hes ducking whoever hes not fighting at any given time. This dude gets them scared and triggers them pretty much every time he opens his mouth. Theres certain guys in older, recent Garcia threads that have like 25+ posts on their own in each one.

        Haters gonna hate.
        The same people saying “who dat?” about Lipinets, saying fight name fighter like Linares instead, will not give credit and just say hes ducking someone else after he plasters Linares into a fine paste on the canvas.

        The sad part is, that Lipinets will probably end up doing better than Linares as at least he can take somewhat of a punch. Linares IMO wont even be able to outbox Garcia anyway. Maybe during the first two setup rounds Garcia usually takes. Garcia has a much better jab, that should force Linares to take more chances and risk his glass chin failing him again. 1-3 rounds max of analysing him, then he’ll put him out to pasture.
        Well said. **slow clap**

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          #44
          Originally posted by glenn mcrory
          Its not them overrating Linares. Theyre just trying to build up these guys to say Garcia is “ducking”.
          If everyone outright said Linares had no chance, that wouldn't be fun for Garcia haters now would it? How can they get excited if they dont believe anyone around his weightclass can beat him?

          Its not Garcia ducking specific opponents. Hes ducking whoever hes not fighting at any given time. This dude gets them scared and triggers them pretty much every time he opens his mouth. Theres certain guys in older, recent Garcia threads that have like 25+ posts on their own in each one.

          Haters gonna hate.
          The same people saying “who dat?” about Lipinets, saying fight name fighter like Linares instead, will not give credit and just say hes ducking someone else after he plasters Linares into a fine paste on the canvas.

          The sad part is, that Lipinets will probably end up doing better than Linares as at least he can take somewhat of a punch. Linares IMO wont even be able to outbox Garcia anyway. Maybe during the first two setup rounds Garcia usually takes. Garcia has a much better jab, that should force Linares to take more chances and risk his glass chin failing him again. 1-3 rounds max of analysing him, then he’ll put him out to pasture.
          EXACTLY right! Linares has MAYBE a 10% chance of beating Mikey. Theres levels to this game and Mikeys is much, much higher. Hes considered a P4Per top 10 for a reason!!! You watch if they fight NONE of these guys will put their $$$$ where their mouths are. Bunch of FRAUDS!

          Again if ANYONE thinks Linares will beat Mikey I will match you $4$!!! As MUCH as you want!!

          Mikey has the size, power, skill, technique to EASILY beat Glass Jaw Khan Jr.

          Linares was TKO'd at 130lbs by the 141 RANKED boxer with a TERRIBLE KO%

          Quit drinking the damn Kool-Aid

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            #45
            Originally posted by davidw9785
            How so? Broner came in that fight the best shape of his life talking about how he was ready to show his quality against Mikey. And then Mikey connected all night and looked a level or two above Broner. No surprise he didn't get the KO; Broner can take a beating as good as anybody out there (ask his daddy Maidnana).

            So how is moving up and schooling a top-shape Broner overrated af? Please tell me.
            Broner beat up one of the guys who TKO'd Linares.

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              #46
              Originally posted by chrisJS
              One of the knocks on Lomachenko is that he doesn't have enough fights. Lipinets has a similar amount but nowhere near the credentials and looked very average winning the vacant belt last time. Lipinets is inferior to Linares who's actually won multiple titles and made multiple defenses beating multiple ranked fighters.

              Mikey is doing a lot of cherry picking IMO. He's about to win his 4th title Broner style yet has only made 1 title defense across all the divisions. His signature Broner win was a whatever win since Broner really lost to Granados and also lost 11 out of 12 rounds to Porter too. Broner looked super weight drained too. I'll take the unification route or beating the top 2-3 guys in your division route over the win a title then bounce route.

              He's a good fighter with solid skills but slow (especially of foot) and has a fairly predictable/repetitive offense. I think he's been smart matching with guys that all have a similar style coming forward with limited defense and no movement. He's not fought anyone that would be considered top 50 pound for pound and his competition has actually gotten worse than what he fought back in 2013/2014.

              Mikey's good don't get me wrong but he doesn't deserve a pound for pound top 10 ranking yet. He has to either unify or beat a top guy.
              IDK?? Knocking down Salido and beating him looked pretty good??? Especially after Salido went on to be Loma...

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                #47
                I don't think he can do 147, that's crazy, I mean Mikey's already chancing it at 140. He looked his best at 135, he should stay there and fight Lomachenko, Linares, Easter etc...

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                • chrisJS
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Shadoww702
                  IDK?? Knocking down Salido and beating him looked pretty good??? Especially after Salido went on to be Loma...
                  Loma has dramatically improved from his second fight. Garcia got knocked down and didn't look good against Martinez. Hurt and looked average vs. Burgos. Loma has looked sensational every time since his 2nd fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by chrisJS
                    Loma has dramatically improved from his second fight. Garcia got knocked down and didn't look good against Martinez. Hurt and looked average vs. Burgos. Loma has looked sensational every time since his 2nd fight.
                    I have to go back and watch Linares. I just know some of the fights i seen he didnt look that great. I still would bet Mikey all day. Everyone I talk to that know their boxing have predicted him by TKO win.

                    And Loma has looked good since Salido and thats why I want to see them fight! Both have looked GREAT thekr last few fights...Thats why they BOTH are in the P4P.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Shadoww702
                      I have to go back and watch Linares. I just know some of the fights i seen he didnt look that great. I still would bet Mikey all day. Everyone I talk to that know their boxing have predicted him by TKO win.

                      And Loma has looked good since Salido and thats why I want to see them fight! Both have looked GREAT thekr last few fights...Thats why they BOTH are in the P4P.
                      I would bet Mikey to beat Linares too. I think he'd fall behind due to Linares' speed, footwork but he'd start to take control around the middle and win either by late stoppage or close decision. Linares' x factor is his skin which seems to hold up better at 135 than it did when he was at the lower weights (perhaps he was draining). His ability to absorb a punch will always be questioned but he seems to have also improved in that aspect and I think his combinations and offense seem to have more variation than at any point previously but something always seems missing with Linares. He's a good fighter but far from great. I think he'll give Lomachenko some problems and a challenging fight early but Lomachenko will end up winning wide.

                      I just think Mikey has stayed away from fighters with Linares' skill set perhaps because he doesn't really want to have to solve a style/speed puzzle. Mikey struggled with slicker fighters before he won his titles but has no doubt improved however he's also fought a similar style of opponent each time.

                      I can accept Mikey being in the lower end of the top 10 (around 7-10) I probably wouldn't agree with it. I absolutely can't see a case for him being a top 5 p4p guy. I can't see a case for Loma NOT being a top 3 guy.
                      Last edited by chrisJS; 02-13-2018, 02:26 PM.

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