Comments Thread For: Wilder Knows Why He 'Annoys People, Gets on People's Nerves'

[wrecksracer]

The 'Bronze-Bomber' won a bronze medal at the 2008 beijing Olympics with virtually no boxing experience, this clearly proves Deontay is special and gifted.

Little Joe Frazier is overrated like the rest of the champions of the past, Joe got whooped on by Oscar Bonavena ( who the hell is that?) and the giant mummy George Foreman made easy work of the little cruiserweight.



All's I know is that Deontay 'Bronze-Bomber' Wilder would of destroyed Oscar Bonavena in less than three rounds! how is little Joe Frazier going to beat a Prime Deontay Wilder when hes going life and death with cruiserweights?

Deontay is right indeed, its a new ERA, the so called 'legends' never seen anyone as strong, fast and as powerful as the 'Bronze-Bomber'. Deontay would of ruled the generations of the past.

Yawn....tell him to beat anyone on the level of Frazier before you start spouting nonsense.

[Ray*]

you said if he had a stacked resume you would back him. my response was no heavyweight in the last 15 years has a stacked resume.

now disprove my statement. i said there hasn't been a heavyweight in the last 15 years that has a stacked resume.


vitali doesnt have a stacked resume. he fought 1 great fighter. Lennox.

wlad doesnt have a stacked resume. he never fought a great fighter.

and Lennox retired in 2003


so again, disprove my statement. show me a heavyweight in the last 15 years that has a stacked resume. the heavyweight divison has been a wasteland since Lennox retired.

Wlad has a better resume, Joshua has a better resume, James Toney has a better resume, Rahman had a better resume... that’s just four names off top of my head. Am sure if I do an extensive check I can get another 10 names out... that’s how terrible Wilder resume is after 9 years as a pro.

[Nomadic]

Because Povetkin cheated and the fight was canceled. But Wilder still flew overseas and was willing to fight Povetkin, so you can't label Wilder a ducker just because the other guy got caught cheating. If anything, Povetkin is the ducker for refusing to fight fair.




Wilder's people sat down with AJ's people hoping to make the fight ASAP. AJ's promoter, very understandably, thought it was a smarter business decision to fight late in the year instead of earlier in the year. Wilder is the B-side and has no choice but to wait. But how can Wilder be a ducker when he clearly wants to fight the best available? As soon as AJ turned him down, he went out and signed to fight King Kong. Are those the actions of a ducker?




So Wilder, for no reason other than personal pride, agrees to fight the highest risk/lowest reward fighter on the planet and you still label him a ducker? Do you see how the facts destroy your position?




Wilder has only been champion for three years. He didn't fight a tomato can for a vacant belt. He fought the #2 heavyweight in the world and dominated him to win his WBC title.

Since then, Wilder's two most notable opponents were caught cheating. Sure, it's resulted in Wilder not facing a top tier opponent since 3 years ago, but it's clearly not Wilder's fault and he's scheduled to face a top tier opponent next. So why are we knocking the guy instead of applauding him for facing the biggest available challenge?




Wilder and Joshua have both faced exactly one top heavyweight. To act like either's resume is noticeably superior to the other is silly. Quit the whining and complaining. They need to fight each other. Period. They're clearly the top two heavyweights on the planet. This is the fight that must happen.

Wilder wants it RIGHT NOW. AJ wants it at the end of the year. AJ is the A-Side, so Wilder must wait. But let's not criticize Wilder in the mean time. He wants the fight desperately. To the point where he's clearly overlooking King Kong, which could be a very costly mistake.

Enough said!

[Kezzer]

No, it's not. Because Wilder has never ducked anybody and Joshua, at best, is a delayer/marinater. I personally wouldn't label either a ducker. They both have agreed to big challenges. But if you insist on comparing who is easier to label a ducker, it has to be the guy that wants to delay their showdown to the end of the year. It can't be the guy who wanted the fight immediately. That's just common sense.




That's a lie. The fight was not offered. Hearn made it clear the fight made more business sense later in the year, Hearn was right, Haymon & Finkel know Hearn is right, so there really wasn't anything that could be done to change Hearn's mind.




That's a lie. Any Joshua vs. Wilder delays have nothing to do with the split. Both sides know Joshua is the A-side. Wilder is "demanding" 50/50 in public because you always start high, but the fight will get done at 60/40 no problem. Had Wilder been willing to do 65/35 to get the fight in March instead of November, it wouldn't have changed anything other than weakening his bargaining position for November as Hearn still wouldn't have done the fight in March.

For someone who “claims” to be an insider blablabla you sure do just accuse people of lying a lot. You might not get this yet (when you grow older you might) but if someone doesn’t have the same opinion as you that doesn’t automatically mean they are lying, it means they have a different viewpoint. Take that into consideration as it will take you far.

Like it or not, outside of the wilder fan camp , more people than not look at wilders resume and see a dodger/ducker - whatever you want to call it. Words and arguments take you so far by facts remain in place, and for all the ifs/buts - wilder has 40 ish fights with only one test so far.

And most people also accept that wilder has had opportunities to fight but hasn’t for or differing reasons - and it’s definitely not a lie to say wilder could have had opportunity to fight now against AJ instead of Parker - clearly that was an opportunity had Wilder/his management priced himself similar to Parker.
Try to pass blam onto hearn as much as you want but he can only work wih what’s offered to him, he states clearly in a number of interviews that it was preferred to be either wilder or Parker; and then also has said numerous times wilder wouldn’t budge from 50/50. Nobody, including yourself/Other wilder fanboys know what would have been the outcome had wilder suggested he would’ve accepted a sensible split; as they never even got to talk about that point.

[N/A]

For someone who “claims” to be an insider blablabla you sure do just accuse people of lying a lot.

People on this site lie a lot. Why shouldn't they be called out for it? Did it ever occur to you that maybe my knowledge and experience makes it easier for me to spot a lie than the average fan? Wouldn't that explain why I would spot lies more often than others?

You might not get this yet (when you grow older you might) but if someone doesn’t have the same opinion as you that doesn’t automatically mean they are lying, it means they have a different viewpoint.

Whether the fight was offered or not is not a matter of opinion. Either it was or it wasn't. If it wasn't, you don't get to have the "opinion" that it was. That's not how opinions work. The sky isn't red. You can't just say, "well it's red in my opinion." No, it's not red. That's a lie.

Like it or not, outside of the wilder fan camp , more people than not look at wilders resume and see a dodger/ducker - whatever you want to call it. Words and arguments take you so far by facts remain in place, and for all the ifs/buts - wilder has 40 ish fights with only one test so far.

No, it's not most people. It's most internet nerds, which is a very small percentage of the viewership. Haymon doesn't bother fighting the internet nerd PR battle. So it's easy for Wilder's detractors to say anything they want because they know there's no rebuttal coming.

There's no logical argument for labeling Wilder a ducker. He flew overseas to fight Povetkin. He's making a voluntary against King Kong. He wants Joshua ASAP. He tried to get Parker in the ring last year. Who is he ducking?

There's a difference between ducking big fights and not having had a lot of big fights. Povetkin & King Kong cheating is the reason Wilder hasn't had a lot of big fights, not ducking. A reasonable person should be able to see the difference. Unfortunately this site is flooded with AJ fanboys who are incapable of honestly assessing the situation.

it’s definitely not a lie to say wilder could have had opportunity to fight now against AJ instead of Parker - clearly that was an opportunity had Wilder/his management priced himself similar to Parker.

No, that definitely is a lie. Because even if they priced themselves identically to Parker to try to get the fight in March, Hearn still views Parker as the easier fight and still would want to wait until the end of the year to fight Wilder.

There's no universe where Wilder gets AJ in March unless Wilder was so desperate and so stupid that he priced himself considerably under Parker, pricing himself so ridiculously low that AJ would be tempted to take the fight immediately.

But what reasonable person would really suggest that Wilder should have taken 20% in March instead of 40% later in the year? To take the position that Wilder could have had the fight in March is like me saying you could have had the fight in March. Yes, you technically could have had the fight in March if you offered AJ $100 million, but the premise is still ridiculous.

[Kezzer]

You live in a bubble. I hope you enjoy it.

[Tyistall]

Team Parker actually negotiated a contract and made a legit offer.

Team windmill could have done the same but are rather content for their guy to just talk kiddie smack from the sidelines.

And there is nothing to suggest Parker will get knocked out in any fashion, let alone brutally.

There is everything to suggest AJ will get hit on his glass jaw, go down and when he gets back up Parker will finish him of with a flurry of punches Joshua went even see coming!

Failing that, a dubious home cooked decision after 12 rounds.

Hahaah so, Parker can't KO Ruiz, Fury, Takam or Cojanu, but somehow he is a lock to KO the taller, bigger, longer reach AJ???? As Mr. Spock would say..."highly illogical Captain"

[SUBZER0ED]

Ali was loved and hated at the same time. Sure, he talked shit, but he backed it up against the biggest names in the sport. Wilder is just going for the hate, because his fights up to this point have been against bums. A HW "champ" with 39 fights and not one actual top-tier opponent can only get so much love.

[KillaCamNZ]

This Wilder guy really is comical - an absolutely joke.

People do need to know who the HW Champ of the world is - and that'll come from Joshua v Parker.

No one says it to your face because no one wants to go to the backwaters of Alabama just to tell you you're an idiot.

He's right - people respect those who step up and do what they say they're going to do. Wilder has made a career out of doing the opposite.

And it's ****ing disgraceful that a HW "Champ", with 40 fighters under his belt, is talking about wanting to prove himself. Maybe he'd already be proven if he didn't load up his resume with cans all these years. Ali fought contenders - Wilder fights scraps.

Every criticism of Wilder is justified - he's a ****ing joke, and a poor representative of this sport. For a big man and a big puncher - he's an absolute wuss outside the ring. Can't command a damn thing. Alpha he is not.

[Raggamuffin]

For someone who “claims” to be an insider blablabla you sure do just accuse people of lying a lot. You might not get this yet (when you grow older you might) but if someone doesn’t have the same opinion as you that doesn’t automatically mean they are lying, it means they have a different viewpoint. Take that into consideration as it will take you far.

Like it or not, outside of the wilder fan camp , more people than not look at wilders resume and see a dodger/ducker - whatever you want to call it. Words and arguments take you so far by facts remain in place, and for all the ifs/buts - wilder has 40 ish fights with only one test so far.

And most people also accept that wilder has had opportunities to fight but hasn’t for or differing reasons - and it’s definitely not a lie to say wilder could have had opportunity to fight now against AJ instead of Parker - clearly that was an opportunity had Wilder/his management priced himself similar to Parker.
Try to pass blam onto hearn as much as you want but he can only work wih what’s offered to him, he states clearly in a number of interviews that it was preferred to be either wilder or Parker; and then also has said numerous times wilder wouldn’t budge from 50/50. Nobody, including yourself/Other wilder fanboys know what would have been the outcome had wilder suggested he would’ve accepted a sensible split; as they never even got to talk about that point.

Stop lying to posters. Only Joshua dick blowers think that Wilder has ducked anyone-especially Joshua and second Wilder doesn’t negotiate fights so stop using his 50/50 comment. He gave his opinion nothing more.