Originally posted by Eff Pandas
View Post
Announcement
Collapse
No announcement yet.
Comments Thread For: Krzysztof Glowacki Avoids Disaster, Krzysztof Wlodarczyk Wins
Collapse
-
Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostWhy are you surprised, I already showed you Dorticos vs Miranda the other day. Cruiser is not a great division. The signs are all there, Vlasov, Bellew breaking into the top 5, Dorticos struggling with Miranda, Glowacki against this scrub etc.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostWhy are you surprised, I already showed you Dorticos vs Miranda the other day. Cruiser is not a great division. The signs are all there, Vlasov, Bellew breaking into the top 5, Dorticos struggling with Miranda, Glowacki against this scrub etc.
And just how exactly does one make an objective comparison between divisions anyway? Is this one of those eye test things? To my mind what makes a great division is plenty of competition at the top and having all the best guys willing to fight each other, cos trying to prove that fighters at one weight are somehow, en masse, P4P 'better' than those in another division is a fools errand. Better to just enjoy this ish for what it is IMO.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-11-2018, 03:45 PM.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostYou gonna show me a division where none of the top guys have ever struggled with someone they shouldn't? Does not having a 100% KO rate against journeymen (even faded ex-contenders) now mean that you ain't that good? If it does then that includes almost every fighter in the sport, man.
Put it this way, Miranda, RJJ, Bellew, Vlasov were able to accomplish feats at cruiser they aren't capable of doing at LHW or HW.
There are numerous fighters north and south more durable than all them, that hit harder, and are just flat out better than these 4 separate fighters.
Comment
-
Originally posted by john l View PostMan you can nitpick anyone career and find fights where they were off.Dont mean sh ite its overall body of work.And picking out the Miranda fight to prove Dorticos cant fight is just bs.And if you don't think cruser is a strong div then what is?????????
Dorticos' sheer lack of skill and overall power were exposed against an unskilled glass chin fighter in Miranda. Lebedev's lack of skill was also demonstrated against RJJ.
You can't be a division known for punching and have some of your biggest punchers go rounds with guys KO'd multiple times in a division 20lbs below that's like the equivalent of Khan going rounds with GGG. Dorticos just does not do anything special compared to the average fighter at HW yet he made it to the semi-final of the WBSS.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostMan that first L f#cks some cats up. Glowacki shouldn't be getting dropped by a 6-0 (1) guy lol. Wut the f#ck maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
Or that now 6-1 (1) cat is a bada$$ who just got discovered idk. Wow doe.Originally posted by Thraxox View PostKeep saying yourself that.Originally posted by john l View PostMan you can nitpick anyone career and find fights where they were off.Dont mean sh ite its overall body of work.And picking out the Miranda fight to prove Dorticos cant fight is just bs.And if you don't think cruser is a strong div then what is?????????Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostYou gonna show me a division where none of the top guys have ever struggled with someone they shouldn't? Does not having a 100% KO rate against journeymen (even faded ex-contenders) now mean that you ain't that good? If it does then that includes almost every fighter in the sport, man.
And just how exactly does one make an objective comparison between divisions anyway? Is this one of those eye test things? To my mind what makes a great division is plenty of competition at the top and having all the best guys willing to fight each other, cos trying to prove that fighters at one weight are somehow, en masse, P4P 'better' than those in another division is a fools errand. Better to just enjoy this ish for what it is IMO.Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostWhat current division has had a top 7 fighter practically get KO'd by a guy with 6 wins 1 KO? His opponent was built like a blown up LHW too.
Put it this way, Miranda, RJJ, Bellew, Vlasov were able to accomplish feats at cruiser they aren't capable of doing at LHW or HW.
There are numerous fighters north and south more durable than all them, that hit harder, and are just flat out better than these 4 separate fighters.
How about Ward getting dropped by Darnell Boone with a 50% losing record ? Aswell as stevenson and kovalev... damn Light Heavyweight must be a **** division then huh ?
"Practically KO'd"
Dumb ass logic. I can see through your awful agenda.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostIt's the division in general, Vlasov, Bellew, Miranda, RJJ were capable of doing things at cruiser they can't at LHW or HW.
Dorticos' sheer lack of skill and overall power were exposed against an unskilled glass chin fighter in Miranda. Lebedev's lack of skill was also demonstrated against RJJ.
You can't be a division known for punching and have some of your biggest punchers go rounds with guys KO'd multiple times in a division 20lbs below that's like the equivalent of Khan going rounds with GGG. Dorticos just does not do anything special compared to the average fighter at HW yet he made it to the semi-final of the WBSS.
Comment
-
Originally posted by DuckAdonis View PostHow about Ward getting dropped by Darnell Boone with a 50% losing record ? Aswell as stevenson and kovalev... damn Light Heavyweight must be a **** division then huh ?
"Practically KO'd"
Dumb ass logic. I can see through your awful agenda.
All those guys were on the way up, improving & non-players in their division when Boone gave them bad days. And its Boone too. Boone is a legit spoiler & I believe was a known spoiler when all those fights happened.
Glowacki is a player in the division. And who the eff is Sergei Radchenko to be dropping Glowacki? Its kinda surprising I think everyone being reasonable would say.
The things you brought up & this situation are very different situations & make lil sense in comparison.
Comment
-
Originally posted by DuckAdonis View PostHow about Ward getting dropped by Darnell Boone with a 50% losing record ? Aswell as stevenson and kovalev... damn Light Heavyweight must be a **** division then huh ?
"Practically KO'd"
Dumb ass logic. I can see through your awful agenda.
Comment
Comment