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  • IlikeBikeTython
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    #21
    Originally posted by Cutthroat
    What current division has had a top 7 fighter practically get KO'd by a guy with 6 wins 1 KO? His opponent was built like a blown up LHW too.

    Put it this way, Miranda, RJJ, Bellew, Vlasov were able to accomplish feats at cruiser they aren't capable of doing at LHW or HW.

    There are numerous fighters north and south more durable than all them, that hit harder, and are just flat out better than these 4 separate fighters.
    Did you really say “practically KO’d”? He was KD. He won the fight by decision. “Practically KO’d” is a ridiculous phrase. If you insist on using it, a fight like Bradley vs Provo would be a better example. Bradley was smashed from pillar to post and dropped at least once if not multiple times in round one, and many refs would’ve stopped the fight right there in the first when he was taking repeated huge shots to the face/Head. Thank god that ref let the fight continue, lest we all be robbed of a super exciting fight. That’s a better example of someone being practically KO’d, but it’s still a pointless dumb phrase to use. And CW is not garbage. Maybe it’s not the strongest division in boxing as far as the division top 10 guys, but there’s several great fighters right now at CW. If you’re a real boxing fan, you can use the eye test and come to a pretty good conclusion about a fighter. Guys like Usyk and Gassiev pass the eye test. Breidis as well. But CW is no different than any other division

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    • Cutthroat
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      #22
      Originally posted by john l
      Yep and Ali prob lost to Doug Jones and SRR lost to Tiger Jones so they both are bums.You cant go thru and nitpick a guys career.You literally picked the ONLY guy to go distance.And a guy who at one time was a top ten fighter.It was a long time ago and smaller weight but maybe he just had one more good fight in him.Or maybe Dorticos had a cold who the he ll knows but just nitpicking a certain fight don't prove anything.

      False equivalencies, Ward, Stevenson, Kovalev, Ali all had 3 years experience maximum. SRR struggled in his come back from a 2 1/2 year retirement. It's not unusual to struggle when you're that inexperienced and far away from your prime.

      What is unusual is multiple fighters in a division, around or in their primes struggling with competition they should be blowing out.

      Mchunu was also one of the biggest hitters in the division sporting 23 wins 20 KO's, he got put out by Bellew. Duradola is another big puncher, no problem for Vlasov.
      Lebedev is one of the biggest punchers in the division, took him 10 rounds to finally stop RJJ.
      Dorticos went a full 10 with Miranda etc.

      Glowacki just nearly got put out by a guy with 6 fights, 1 KO, and built like a blown up LHW.

      Multiple fighters in the top 10 of a division struggling is not common at all and rarely happens in boxing.

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      • Cutthroat
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        #23
        Originally posted by IlikeBikeTython
        Did you really say “practically KO’d”? He was KD. He won the fight by decision. “Practically KO’d” is a ridiculous phrase. If you insist on using it, a fight like Bradley vs Provo would be a better example. Bradley was smashed from pillar to post and dropped at least once if not multiple times in round one, and many refs would’ve stopped the fight right there in the first when he was taking repeated huge shots to the face/Head. Thank god that ref let the fight continue, lest we all be robbed of a super exciting fight. That’s a better example of someone being practically KO’d, but it’s still a pointless dumb phrase to use. And CW is not garbage. Maybe it’s not the strongest division in boxing as far as the division top 10 guys, but there’s several great fighters right now at CW. If you’re a real boxing fan, you can use the eye test and come to a pretty good conclusion about a fighter. Guys like Usyk and Gassiev pass the eye test. Breidis as well. But CW is no different than any other division
        Did you see the knockdowns? Glowacki got put down not once but twice, it should've been 3x as his glove touched the canvas to brace himself after he nearly got knocked down after he got back up the 1st time. The guy would've been out cold against any top 10 LHW or HW easily.

        The thing about cruiser is people are saying it's better than LHW and HW and that's where I have a problem. It may not be you specifically but many on this forum believe that these cruiser is better than these divisions.

        As far as eye test goes I see Gassiev as the best but even he himself is not in his prime, he's barely 24, by the time he's 28 he'll be a significantly better and different fighter.

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        • Mr Objecitivity
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          #24
          Originally posted by Cutthroat
          Did you see the knockdowns? Glowacki got put down not once but twice, it should've been 3x as his glove touched the canvas to brace himself after he nearly got knocked down after he got back up the 1st time. The guy would've been out cold against any top 10 LHW or HW easily.

          The thing about cruiser is people are saying it's better than LHW and HW and that's where I have a problem. It may not be you specifically but many on this forum believe that these cruiser is better than these divisions.

          As far as eye test goes I see Gassiev as the best but even he himself is not in his prime, he's barely 24, by the time he's 28 he'll be a significantly better and different fighter.
          Cruiser weight is CLEARLY better than heavyweight! A blown up, 6 foot 1, fat, overweight cruiser weight / light heavyweight in Alexander Povetkin at age 38 as a pressure fighter is currently a top 5 boxer and is the mandatory to one of the champions.

          This same Alexander Povetkin, at age 38, as a pressure fighter, past his prime, who really belongs in the light heavyweight or cruiser weight division, is better than 90% of all heavyweights today. Yet, this same Povetkin (in his prime) arguably lost to one of the top cruiser weights at the time in Marco Huck who himself got destroyed and beaten more convincingly by Krzystoff Glowacki than he did by Alexander Povetkin. And this same Marco Huck was also beaten more dominantly by Mairis Brieidis.

          Mairis Brieidis also knocked out Manuel Charr more brutally than any other current heavyweight, including Alexander Povetkin and this same Manuel Charr is currently one of the champions at heavyweight.

          And Mairis Brieidis would probably destroy Alexander Povetkin!

          Not to mention, the pudgy, overweight Povetkin knocked out both Carlos Takam and Johan Duhapas more brutally than Deontay Wilder or Anthony Joshua did. Let that sink in!

          Carlos Takam would be brutalized by Mairis Brieidis at heavyweight! So would Johan Duhapas!
          Last edited by Mr Objecitivity; 02-12-2018, 05:41 AM.

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          • john l
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            #25
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            False equivalencies, Ward, Stevenson, Kovalev, Ali all had 3 years experience maximum. SRR struggled in his come back from a 2 1/2 year retirement. It's not unusual to struggle when you're that inexperienced and far away from your prime.

            What is unusual is multiple fighters in a division, around or in their primes struggling with competition they should be blowing out.

            Mchunu was also one of the biggest hitters in the division sporting 23 wins 20 KO's, he got put out by Bellew. Duradola is another big puncher, no problem for Vlasov.
            Lebedev is one of the biggest punchers in the division, took him 10 rounds to finally stop RJJ.
            Dorticos went a full 10 with Miranda etc.

            Glowacki just nearly got put out by a guy with 6 fights, 1 KO, and built like a blown up LHW.

            Multiple fighters in the top 10 of a division struggling is not common at all and rarely happens in boxing.
            Whatever believe what you want but you can nitpick anyone career.I could sit here and give more but this seems like a waste of my time.And if Doticos cant fight then why did Gass have such a prob?And Duradola is 37 and FAR from best.And yes it is common if you nitpick every fight.Styles,injurys or just a bad day.These guys are not machines they have family probs or a host of other things going on.You judge somone by their whole body of work not just picking out 1 fight.

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            • john l
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              #26
              Originally posted by IlikeBikeTython
              Did you really say “practically KO’d”? He was KD. He won the fight by decision. “Practically KO’d” is a ridiculous phrase. If you insist on using it, a fight like Bradley vs Provo would be a better example. Bradley was smashed from pillar to post and dropped at least once if not multiple times in round one, and many refs would’ve stopped the fight right there in the first when he was taking repeated huge shots to the face/Head. Thank god that ref let the fight continue, lest we all be robbed of a super exciting fight. That’s a better example of someone being practically KO’d, but it’s still a pointless dumb phrase to use. And CW is not garbage. Maybe it’s not the strongest division in boxing as far as the division top 10 guys, but there’s several great fighters right now at CW. If you’re a real boxing fan, you can use the eye test and come to a pretty good conclusion about a fighter. Guys like Usyk and Gassiev pass the eye test. Breidis as well. But CW is no different than any other division
              This guy has been told by more then a couple but he is not gonna get it.Let him live with his ignorance on boxing.

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