Comments Thread For: Wilder Reacts To Lennox Lewis, Stands Firm on Beating Tyson

[Elroy The Great]

I only disagree with points 6 and 7.

Tyson had to essentially give up the sport and training for about 3 years, and live off of shyt prison food. I don't in anyway see how that helped him, other then fewer shots to the head during that time. Tyson always had a head like cement though, so I don't think it made a difference.

And as for who was further past their prime, comparing Tyson from 2002 to the Tyson from 86 to 91, is like comparing a car rolling off of the showroom floor versus something with 170000 miles.

LL was nowhere near that degraded.

there are plenty of buff dudes in prison. nothing prevented tyson from maintaining his physique.

and while tyson was stewing, lenny was fighting.

again, tyson had the much easier resume than lenny. lenny would have gone undefeated with tysons resume. so when they fought, lenny had more ring damage than tyson.

[Robbie Barrett]

Where you get that ridiculous info from. First of all lennox lewis got his ass handed to him in sparring ever since he didn't want none of Tyson he ****ing said that himself

Ridiculous info? Do some research ******. Tyson got took to court by Lewis, paid Lewis off and fought Seldon. He then vacated the WBC title to avoid him.

Mentioning Lewis fighting Tyson before prison is ******ed from Tyson fans. Tyson lost to Douglas only 8 months after Lewis turned pro.

[Mrbamladen]

We now have a REAL LIFE situation in which Anthony Joshua can take on the likes of heavyweight champ Deontay Wilder! Joshua chooses to TALK instead of show & prove against the man thats been calling him out for years.......I guess his worshipping drunk fans filling up soccer stadiums to see his muscles & him fight against fodder is enough to satisfy........oh well.....

Real talk. Let's not forget the "step up" fights that his fans are so excited to see other than him take care of wilder. Like the " terrific" mandatory fight against the guy who failed a drug test before his wilder fight, and has looked less than average against low level competition ever since. Or the biggest heavyweight fight in history against the 400lb drug and alcohol abuser with mental issues who danced his way to champion almost three years ago. The rematch the world is waiting for vs Whyte (lol). But like you said..... I guess it's better to watch aj flex his muscles on weak fighters than to become the undisputed #1 heavyweight in the world.

[etech1]

there are plenty of buff dudes in prison. nothing prevented tyson from maintaining his physique.

and while tyson was stewing, lenny was fighting.

again, tyson had the much easier resume than lenny. lenny would have gone undefeated with tysons resume. so when they fought, lenny had more ring damage than tyson.

I can, (and do), lift weights almost daily, but if I don't hit the speed bag for, let's say 4 months, my punching speed and accuracy greatly degradate.

That's just one aspect of boxing, so I'm sure that Tyson declined greatly over almost 3 years. Tyson was a shell of his former self in 2002.

They're careers and primes were skewed time wise, and so we missed what would have been a true clash of titans. LLs victory in 2002 didn't mean much.

I don't really disagree with your other points though.

[Robbie Barrett]

Real talk. Let's not forget the "step up" fights that his fans are so excited to see other than him take care of wilder. Like the " terrific" mandatory fight against the guy who failed a drug test before his wilder fight, and has looked less than average against low level competition ever since. Or the biggest heavyweight fight in history against the 400lb drug and alcohol abuser with mental issues who danced his way to champion almost three years ago. The rematch the world is waiting for vs Whyte (lol). But like you said..... I guess it's better to watch aj flex his muscles on weak fighters than to become the undisputed #1 heavyweight in the world.

Not a case of wanting to see them instead. Actions speak louder than words. Wilder is talking but then making ridiculous demands. Stop being a ******.

[vitali1999]

What a piece of **** wilder is. He thinks he's so good. 3 years and all he's fought is bums and 1 title, Tyson unified all belts and beat all the top ranked contenders in less than 3 years. This clown is 3 years and a month into his so called reign

[mjh1969]

Wilder is entitled to his opinion. History can never prove it. Tyson between 85-92 would have hurt him. But Tyson fought every available contender during the late 80s. He fought Tony Tucker, Pinklon Thomas, James “bone crusher” Smith, Tyrell Biggs, Frank Bruno, Spinks and other credible fighters. It ain’t Tyson’s fault that he ran over these guys. The guys that Tyson fought were heavyweight or former heavyweight champions. Tyson beat all three champions to become undisputed heavyweight champion in 1988. He started boxing at 13 yrs old and was beating men by 16 yrs old. I seen all of his fights and most of Wilder’s fights.

Wilder started boxing late (21 yrs old). He didn’t have the same start as Tyson. His reputation came from being Klistcho’s sparring partner. Wilder is untested and unfortunately isn’t or wasn’t as well marketed as Tyson was. He hasn’t lost yet and believes highly in himself. He has a good right hand and good stamina but that’s it.

Against a prime Tyson, Tyson bobs and weaves digs to the body then hits him with an uppercut. Then Tyson would come in fast bob and weave then hit him with a right hand. The way to beat Tyson would be with a great jab to throw off his timing, tie him up, hit him with right hands and be able to take a punch. Wilder doesn’t have a good jab, good movement and swings too wildly. He would take a lot of punches and Tyson would work him in the body. Against a post Rooney Tyson, Wilder would have better success because Tyson’s head movment wasn’t quite what it once was. He would hit Tyson more but Tyson would still hit him in the body and still had lighting fast combinations. It would be a toss up.

He beats an older Tyson who Lennox beat. Wilder would not have beat Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Holyfield, Lewis and Bowe in their primes. Ali was too fast, Foreman was too strong, Holmes was too skilled, Lewis was too skilled and the Futch trained Bowe was too good. If Wilder beats Parker, Fury, Ortiz and unifies all the titles then he can talk a little more. Until then he needs to prove himself.

[Elroy The Great]

I can, (and do), lift weights almost daily, but if I don't hit the speed bag for, let's say 4 months, my punching speed and accuracy greatly degradate.

That's just one aspect of boxing, so I'm sure that Tyson declined greatly over almost 3 years. Tyson was a shell of his former self in 2002.

They're careers and primes were skewed time wise, and so we missed what would have been a true clash of titans. LLs victory in 2002 didn't mean much.

I don't really disagree with your other points though.

if only tyson had better competition, we would have seen just how great he really was (or wasnt).

imho, had they fought prior to him going away, lenny still beats him. he was just too big and strong and smart.

[b d w]

I understand respecting legends but at the sametime he is a fighter. What is he supposed to say " O yea Tyson would kick my a$$." Be logical guys.

Even in his prime Tyson used to say there was no way he would’ve beaten Ali.

[lion33lit]

Cus D'amato & Kevin Rooney created a well oiled destructive machine! The sad part was, Mike had some destructive attitudes from childhood stemming from a horrible home life and destructive living in the streets of Brooklyn NY.

Holyfield still lives his life justifying his win against Tyson as though he played no part with his lowered cranium ramming Tysons face. He acts like that fight defines his career - I hear nothing of his religion now, like he used to play it out when he'd come in the ring (singing religious songs) for his fights against Mike. No other opponent had the David & Goliath theme like Holyfield pushed for Mike. Why?? Holyfield KNEW he was going up against GREATNESS and did everything to fight his fears (sad part is, Mike no longer had it)!

Lennox ADMITS on youtube he had a past prime faded Mike in an interview. Good for Lennox, he acknowledges the GREATNESS, knowing it wouldve been highly competitive in the early eighties!

Mike was hands down the most EXCITING heavyweight champ their ever was, his style & personal drama was 2nd to NONE!......Mike did his thing for a short time after Cus,.....but his personal demons won out. Mike still to this day can sell out shows by simply discussing his past.....I know of no other heavyweight that can do that.

Holyfield derives great joy in telling the public what was on Mikes mind on "bite night," he's judge, jury & now mind reader when it comes to Tysons intentions, to justify the blatant head butts on the shorter guy.

I wonder how Wilder would have dealt with & countered Holyfields boombastic head or Lennoxs lazy jab........interesting indeed..... Wilders got the right to his opinion.....the world don't end with Lennox or Mr. "Evan Fields".....