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  • Is there anything wrong with letting a fight marinate?

    Floyd and Manny let the fight between them marinate to make more money, what is wrong with Keith doing the same with him and Spence?

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    I don't think its automatically a bad thing, but if guys are 1 & 2 in the division what exactly are we marinating? How much bigger are the 1 & 2 guy gonna get? They can't beat anyone except each other to get bigger. But I mean if they wanna have a fight to build up things a lil I won't hate on it too bad, but if its longer than 6mos from now I rarely see the point.

    Usually the problem isn't about marinating its that there promoter didn't make them as big as they should be already & now they GOTTA beat the big names to get bigger in the first place so marinating isn't fixing the problem. Fighting the guy fixes the problem for the next big fight or the rematch if the fight is that good.

    If guys are ranked further apart from each other I may or may not see a worthwhile reason to marinate. Usually in that situation age/experience will play a part for me in how much sense it makes. For example the Loma vs Tank discussed fight seems like something worth marinating since Tank is so young, Loma is so good, both seem like they got the personalities to make the fight bigger & they aren't 1 & 2 in the division (Loma's #1, but I think Tank is probably 3rd best case & maybe 5th worse case).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post
      Floyd and Manny let the fight between them marinate to make more money, what is wrong with Keith doing the same with him and Spence?
      Nothing wrong from a business perspective but it's not always attractive to fans to wait around for these matchups. I feel marination benefits those involved but for the wider audience it's a pain and often interest is lost or focus is moved elsewhere like the Khan vs Brook fight that's a classic overmarination and now Eddie hearns chasing arse to renew interest to the causual/hardcore fans

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      • #4
        Sadly, the best timing for the best fight rarely equals the biggest payday

        This one is tough. I expect we all agree that 99% of fighters aren't paid enough hard cash, respect or attention for the incredible sacrifices they make and discipline required to give us such uniquely satisfying entertainment.

        But the paltry number of TV dates, the adolescent inability of promotional outfits to get the best fighters to fight each other, the difficulty of picking a spot for and promoting a big card are enough to derail half the great fights we'd love to see while both guys are in or near their respective primes.

        Add to that the unfortunate reality that it's pretty rare that prime fighting years converge at the right weight for top fighters--Barrera vs. Morales, Pacquiao vs. Marquez--style--and the wine is corked or turned to vinegar before the cork is popped.

        One side wants to marinate the fight so their guy can develop. The other side wants to make the fight yesterday before their guy gets old.

        Plus, the real money, sadly, is in a mainstream audience giving a damn and it usually takes one or both fighter being way past their peak before that coveted 1-million PPV buys mark can be crossed. Stinks for us, gets our fighters massively larger purses though.

        I think the absurd emphasis on undefeated records these days pushes the marinating process into wasted legendary nights territory.

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        • #5
          Depends. If you are worrying whether boxers that are worth tens of millions of dollars need more money then yes, it's good.

          If you want to see the best boxers fight the best boxers, especially while they are both in their prime, then no, it isn't good at all for the boxing fan.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post
            Floyd and Manny let the fight between them marinate to make more money, what is wrong with Keith doing the same with him and Spence?
            No, Mayweather avoided Manny like the plague until he was sure he could beat a post prime version of the once great fighter. he was so scared, he said Manny might hurt him and he'd have to walk with a walking stick lol

            The only thing left to marinate were his balls.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
              No, Mayweather avoided Manny like the plague until he was sure he could beat a post prime version of the once great fighter. he was so scared, he said Manny might hurt him and he'd have to walk with a walking stick lol

              The only thing left to marinate were his balls.
              I was making the point that letting the fight marinate earned them the biggest paydays of their life.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                No, Mayweather avoided Manny like the plague until he was sure he could beat a post prime version of the once great fighter. he was so scared, he said Manny might hurt him and he'd have to walk with a walking stick lol

                The only thing left to marinate were his balls.
                No, Pedquiao and bob arum declined to fight mayweather for various reasons. Those include drug testing, then a 50/50 split and stadium construction years later LOL

                Freddie roach agrees as well Pactrd

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312 View Post
                  Floyd and Manny let the fight between them marinate to make more money, what is wrong with Keith doing the same with him and Spence?
                  Are you a fan or an accountant for Thruman.And to answer your ? EVERTHING!!!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
                    No, Pedquiao and bob arum declined to fight mayweather for various reasons. Those include drug testing, then a 50/50 split and stadium construction years later LOL

                    Freddie roach agrees as well Pactrd
                    Freddie does agree 1st fight in 2010 was done and ITS THEIR FAULT it did not happen.(scarred of needies,cut off for testing).After that its a little of both but its CLEAR Mayweather wanted fight when it was at its best.

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