Gervonta Davis was IBF Champ in 2017. But he's not ready?

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  • Johnston
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    #41
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I agree that Tank could learn alot. I also agree Loma destroys Tank right now.

    Now, for the record, I wasn't upset by the Lubin/Charlo matchup. So I am using hindsight and I am being somewhat hypocritical.

    I just think Floyd is doing with Tank what Bob is doing with Valdez. They are young guys that got "promoter assisted" titles (if you know what I mean) in favorable matchups. They both are solid draws in their home base (Baltimore, Phoenix) of fans. They are slowly being moved to the bigger stages.

    If building a draw equates to ducking by some fans, so be it.
    Absolutely, if all the young guys took the path of lubin I'd be willing to bet the outcome would Always be somewhat similar. I believe in this sport you should take your time for experience and confidence. this is a business and usually taking your time and being patient pays off in the long term. They guys pushing for this fight have to come to terms it just doesn't make sense for tank to fight loma, and I really think loma is the exception. If tank didn't want to fight someone like berchelt, machado, or Corrales then I would have a problem.

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    • GhostofDempsey
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      #42
      He also had over 200 amateur fights. So he has plenty of ring experience. More than Canelo when he got in the ring with Floyd at 23. More than Tyson when he was champ at age 20. Gervonta is adopting Floyd's cherry-picking ways from his mentor, and he wants to preserve that zero in the loss column at all costs.

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      • LockardTheGOAT
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        #43
        He isn't ready but he never will be. Loma is on a whole different level and Davis will probably never be able to defeat him, no matter what their respective ages or experience is.
        Last edited by LockardTheGOAT; 02-06-2018, 02:59 PM.

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          Just the modern mentality of protecting the 0 at all cost. Its not as if he's expected to win, considering how badly other fighters have done against lomachenko, if Davis landed a few good shots and didn't quit his stock would probably go up. I don't know why these fighters Are so terrified of losing, it's not done canelo or lomachenko any harm. No doubt in a couple of years we'll get a wilder esque rant about racism being the reason he's not a superstar.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Johnston
            Absolutely, if all the young guys took the path of lubin I'd be willing to bet the outcome would Always be somewhat similar. I believe in this sport you should take your time for experience and confidence. this is a business and usually taking your time and being patient pays off in the long term. They guys pushing for this fight have to come to terms it just doesn't make sense for tank to fight loma, and I really think loma is the exception. If tank didn't want to fight someone like berchelt, machado, or Corrales then I would have a problem.
            I felt Tank should fight Salido or Macahdo next. I think those are step up fights before he can consider a Berchelt or Loma.

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              #46
              Originally posted by DramaShow
              Just the modern mentality of protecting the 0 at all cost. Its not as if he's expected to win, considering how badly other fighters have done against lomachenko, if Davis landed a few good shots and didn't quit his stock would probably go up. I don't know why these fighters Are so terrified of losing, it's not done canelo or lomachenko any harm. No doubt in a couple of years we'll get a wilder esque rant about racism being the reason he's not a superstar.
              Do you feel the same about Oscar Valdez?

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                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Do you feel the same about Oscar Valdez?
                quiggs a class fighter, dont be surprised if he beats valdez.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DramaShow
                  quiggs a class fighter, dont be surprised if he beats valdez.
                  hahahaha. Dramashow. you don't think Quigg is going to beat Valdez. LMFAO!

                  Man, just admit it. Floyd is doing the right thing with Tank. He's doing the same thing other promoters are doing with their young, still developing titleholders.

                  But its Floyd so you guys gotta do this.

                  hahahah you wont be surprised if Quigg beats Valdez.

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                    #49
                    Loma already has moved on and plans to fight Linares. No need to beat a dead horse.

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                    • Johnston
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      I felt Tank should fight Salido or Macahdo next. I think those are step up fights before he can consider a Berchelt or Loma.
                      Salido would be a good opponent next seeing how it looks he's starting to age. After that someone like Corrales, machado, roman, even ogawa would be great fights. Berchelt might be to much of a high risk low reward situation at the moment. He has plenty of options but this is boxing, making fights isn't so easy. I'd be thrilled to see him fight two of these guys before he eventually moves up

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