Gervonta Davis was IBF Champ in 2017. But he's not ready?

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  • Cheek busting
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    #21
    Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
    Laugh at the illiterate tard all day, he couldnt even read I <3Radio promos. He is the most skilled fighter in history. Prime rjj? Short-lived stardom. Floyd had the entire internet shilling against him and he still walked out undefeated. Wife-beating illiterate and all.
    Agreed. Which is what I was doing - and apparently some people here who are a bit slow weren't able to discriminate.

    When it comes to discussing Floyd talent-wise, and legacy, you'll never hear me say anything other than he's an ATG, top 5, maybe even THE BEST (it could definitely be argued).

    I still wouldn't be the least bit surprised if in ten years he's blown through his fortune, his promotional company is defunct (just like every other business venture he's attempted), and HE is the one shilling for companies to make money.

    He will never be "broke" in the sense of what most average people would consider broke, of course. But he won't parley his fortune into a generational dynasty either.

    See - it's possible to praise somebody, AND make fun of them.

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    • TheUntouchable
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      #22
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      If you don't think Davis can ever beat him, how exactly is he ever going to be "ready" for him?
      Oh, are you saying 50/50 fights are the norm in boxing and fights with a heavy favorite shouldn't happen?

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        #23
        Originally posted by TheUntouchable
        Oh, are you saying 50/50 fights are the norm in boxing and fights with a heavy favorite shouldn't happen?
        I'm saying you can't complain about a guy not being ready when you yourself don't believe he's ready.

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        • jas
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          #24
          Theres a huge difference between jose pedraza and vasyl lomachenko

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          • R_Walken
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            #25
            Originally posted by Cheek busting
            Anything that Floyd, or related to the name Mayweather "thinks" - I'd do the exact opposite.

            Everything that dude has touched has gone defunct - his rap label (LOL so stereotypical), his lottery soda (LOL)...

            Hell, he was broke after 2 years fighting Pacquiao. And it sounds like he's desperate for money again just after making another few hundred million (well, likely after taxes, closer to 100 and some change) not even a year ago hahah.

            The only upside is to pitch him to the type of fans who like Broner.. But these types of fans can't afford tickets to fights, and have to pitch in like 20 deep to buy PPVs.

            Ever notice that despite Floyd constantly fighting in his backyard of Las Vegas, his opponent ALWAYS had more fans live in attendance? LOOOL
            I don't know he seemed to do pretty good financially in his sport and I bet his TMT gear is worth a couple bucks

            Most new businesses fail its part of life

            But your the type of negative fan I'm talking abouYou know Davis probably stands no chance against Loma right now but you want to see the fight why ?

            Probably to see a fighter Mayweathers associated with lose

            If you wanted to see he best fight the best you'd want Loma to fight Mikey Garcia or Linares.
            Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
            Champions are not champions anymore - they are just not ready, yet..)
            I think there's different levels of Champions especially when you have 4 organizations. A young guy gets a strap it's just to raise his profile why throw him to wolves when he has upside. No one in Mayweathers position would do that especially if the fighter he's benifitingnisnassociated with Arum

            Do you complain that Valdez or Zurdo hasn't fought any fighter close to being the best in their division let alone a P4Per ?

            What about Sadam ali are you demanding he fight Charlo ?

            I'd be amped for a Loma / Davis fight but wouldn't give Davis much of a chance

            Loma should fight other proven top echeleon fighters in and around heir prime like Garcia ( why isn't TR interested in this fight ) or Linares in my opinion

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            • TheUntouchable
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              #26
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              I'm saying you can't complain about a guy not being ready when you yourself don't believe he's ready.
              Nobody at 135 or less can beat Lomachenko. Does that mean they'll never be ready for him and shouldn't fight him. Should Lomachenko retire because he's too good?

              No, that doesn't make sense. The best should fight the best, no matter how slim the chances of the second best are.

              Davis "is not ready" for Lomachenko, ducks him and fights guys who "are't ready" for Davis instead.

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              • KillaMane26
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                #27
                I doubt Davis scared to fight NoMas but his team is...so keep his name out ya mouth until then. That's goes to Floyd too

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  If you don't think Davis can ever beat him, how exactly is he ever going to be "ready" for him?
                  This is the question to end the thread on. Amen!

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                  • TheUntouchable
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by R_Walken
                    I think there's different levels of Champions especially when you have 4 organizations. A young guy gets a strap it's just to raise his profile why throw him to wolves when he has upside.
                    Ah, yeah, why throw the young guy to wolves when you can find guys you can throw to the young guy, right?

                    Or simply put: Don't fight the best, fight the worst possible opponent.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TheUntouchable
                      Ah, yeah, why throw the young guy to wolves when you can find guys you can throw to the young guy, right?

                      Or simply put: Don't fight the best, fight the worst possible opponent.
                      I think there's a big difference between fighting possibly the #1 P4P fighter on the planet and instead fighting other top guys in the division or fringe contenders?

                      To see if he's the real deal

                      It's like f.uck he's a young top guy throw him in with the best fighter on the planet when he hasn't even fought any remotely at that level and hope for the best

                      And f.uck trying to build him up to be a star just feed him to Arum. The same guy that delayed the biggest fight in the sport until he bled Manny dry.


                      I never saw 1 thread about how Valdez should fight LSC , Russell or Mares instead of he scrubs he's been fighting. Everyone was cool getting a strap and getting a couple fights to look impressive in and now when he's stepping up it's against a top 6-9 guy in the division not exactly P4P material but no ones complaining

                      Davis beating Pedraza is better then anything on valdez resume

                      If fans want the best to fight the best then they should want Loma vs Mikey Garcia. Both undeafted P4P guys in their prime but for some reason Arum doesn't seem to be in a hurry to make that fight or even discuss it

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