Where does Gassiev Usyk winner rank on atg cruserweight status?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #11
    Originally posted by Blue54
    Im not tryna discredit the past fighters but im not gonna sit here and overate them either they never had 4 belts back then so i cant say they where truly unified like today.

    Imo i fell it speaks more volumes
    being a 4 belt holder than a 2 and 3
    Its shows you really went thru more to get the recognition of being the undisputed unified champ
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    Split the pie into 2, 3 or 4 when you put it back together it is still only 1 pie.

    Undisputed is undisputed.

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    • BattlingNelson
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      #12
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
      No. Haye was a far better fighter imo. Neither would be able to handle the CW Hayemaker.

      Mormeck ahead of them too.
      IMO Gassiev and Usyk are better than Mormeck which gives the winner a better of that fight a better resume than Haye.

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      • sparkz2112
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        #13
        So if next year they come out with a new belt then is there no undisputed champions in history any more??? That’s what you’re saying.

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        • boliodogs
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          #14
          Originally posted by Loma#1
          Bellew would destroy both Usyk and Gassiev
          Only in your dreams.

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          • Johnston
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            #15
            Originally posted by Loma#1
            Bellew would destroy both Usyk and Gassiev
            That's an absolute joke..

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            • Morrie ATG
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              #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              Only in your dreams.
              Bellew fought Haymaker Haye, he's not afraid of Gassiev or Usyk. There's levels to this game. We all need to be honest for once.

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              • BM dnobagaV
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                #17
                Originally posted by Loma#1
                Bellew fought Haymaker Haye, he's not afraid of Gassiev or Usyk. There's levels to this game. We all need to be honest for once.
                David Haye sucks and has always ****** major balls.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #18
                  The winner would be #2. Neither guy would ever be better than Holyfield, but I think the winner would have to go to #2.

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                  • New England
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                    #19
                    all time great? this word gets thrown around too often. just call him a "top 10 cruiserweight all time." you're insulting the guys on an "ATG" list with 100+ fights and victories over hall of famers.

                    there's basically been no sustained greatness at CW. the "great cruiserweights" are basically one guy, evander holyfield, and he was a HW and that's the only reason most of you even remember his name.


                    FFS you're 200 lbs. most of those guys are well over 6' and have 75+ inches of reach. some even cut weight and balloon back up over 210 in the ring. you're a HW. you're big enough to hurt your opponents. you might need more than one big shot, but unless you're a pleb a pro boxer who is fit and weighs 200 lbs has the power to hurt you. just fight there and make the money.

                    some of these guys would give joshua problems. if you beat that guy, or do well enough to earn a rematch, you're set for life on money. you never have to fight again if you don't want to. i don't know if they really understand that.

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                    • boliodogs
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                      No. Haye was a far better fighter imo. Neither would be able to handle the CW Hayemaker.

                      Mormeck ahead of them too.
                      Haye was almost 24 years old when a 40 year old cruiserweight stopped him in 5 rounds. Moreck lost 7 times and was KOed 3 times.Neither Haye nor Mormeck were as good at cruiserweight as Usyk or Gassiev. Your bias in favor of UK boxers and against Eastern European boxers is ****** and wrong.

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