Where does Gassiev Usyk winner rank on atg cruserweight status?

**Morrie ATG** · 02-05-2018, 06:46 AM

Bellew would destroy both Usyk and Gassiev

**BattlingNelson** · 02-05-2018, 06:49 AM

Better than Haye. Not yet as good as Holyfield. So put the winner in at no.2.

**DuckAdonis** · 02-05-2018, 07:01 AM

Top 3 of all time atleast

**sweeterscience** · 02-05-2018, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by BattlingNelson

Better than Haye. Not yet as good as Holyfield. So put the winner in at no.2.

You may well be right, but it feels slightly premature for me to put either Gassiev or Usyk above Johnny Nelson and Carlos DeLeon. I expect that might change in a hurry as Usyk and Gassiev progress in their careers.

**Robbie Barrett** · 02-05-2018, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Blue54

This will be the 5th ever fully unified undisputed champ in boxing history. Plus first to ever do it in cruserweight history.

What are you talking about there's been many more undisputed champions. If you're talking about the WBO. Then it doesn't count before it was recognised as a legit world title. Like the IBO etc doesn't count now.

**Robbie Barrett** · 02-05-2018, 07:05 AM

Originally posted by BattlingNelson

Better than Haye. Not yet as good as Holyfield. So put the winner in at no.2.

No. Haye was a far better fighter imo. Neither would be able to handle the CW Hayemaker.

Mormeck ahead of them too.

**Blue54** · 02-05-2018, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

What are you talking about there's been many more undisputed champions. If you're talking about the WBO. Then it doesn't count before it was recognised as a legit world title. Like the IBO etc doesn't count now.

The wbo is a legit world title and im talking all 4 major belts at once hence fully unified champ.

**Robbie Barrett** · 02-05-2018, 07:20 AM

Originally posted by Blue54

The wbo is a legit world title and im talking all 4 major belts at once hence fully unified champ.

Before it was legit there was many undisputed champions, That's like not counting them now because they don't have the IBO.

It's an attempt to make the achievement seem greater than what fighters did in the past.

**Blue54** · 02-05-2018, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

Before it was legit there was many undisputed champions, That's like not counting them now because they don't have the IBO.

It's an attempt to make the achievement seem greater than what fighters did in the past.

Im not tryna discredit the past fighters but im not gonna sit here and overate them either they never had 4 belts back then so i cant say they where truly unified like today.

Imo i fell it speaks more volumes
being a 4 belt holder than a 2 and 3
Its shows you really went thru more to get the recognition of being the undisputed unified champ.

Where does Gassiev Usyk winner rank on atg cruserweight status?