Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Don't Rate Lomachenko as P4P 1 or Fighter of The Year!

[satiev1]

crawford sound like a damn hoe! when they asked for his prediction on loma/rigo he didn't say none of this sht. the mofo said it was "50/50 fight". sound like a jealous azz female.

rigo >> diaz, indongo. its that simple! got damn hater.

ring magazine had rigo ranked #4. ESPN had him #7 and here on bxscene he was #6.

where TF were diaz and indongo on the P4P rankings??

ima huge crawford fan and admire his talents but hes showing his hoe traits here. cut the sht out.

80 percent of media "experts", youtube racists, forum members, trainers, and fighters said 50/50 fight. Now it's rigo was too small old and never any good. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLL

[Madison Boxing]

lomachenko needs to beat quality fighters like diaz and julius indongo to be considered the best fighter on the planet and fighter of the year. Forget about the pound for pound ranked calibre rigondeaux, diaz and indongo are the true tests of greatness.

[factsarenice]

I'm ok with either Lomachenko or Bud. Crawford would have been my first choice but Loma is ok

[Boxing Logic]

Damn! Crawford and his weak resume are jealous as hell.

Lomachenko = naturally 140 pounds. Rigondeaux = naturally 128 pounds. Size difference between Loma and Rigo = 12 pounds.

Terence Crawford = naturally 175 pounds at least. Size difference between Crawford and Lomachenko = 35 - 40 pounds.

End of thread.

[Boxing Logic]

Peter Nelson said the fights last week were 50/50 to. It's called promotion. He was promoting the fight of his stablemate

Yeah, you can clearly see that Crawford is real concerned about promoting and helping Lomachenko, seeing as he just **** on the guy for an entire article. This the excuse you're gonna go with for Crawford contracting himself? Seriously? That he's just trying to help Lomachenko? In the comments section of an article about him ****ting on Lomachenko? Seriously????

[Morrie ATG]

Who gives a ****. I don’t count the Rigo win as anything special just like the Julius Indongo win.

If Vassil fights Linares now we’re talking! A win over Jorge Linares is better than anybody Terrence Crawford has fought and that’s just a fact. Even beating Jeff Horn doesn’t reach Linares’ level. Crawford needs to fight someone like Danny Garcia at the very least to equal Linares. Vassil’s loss to Salido is old news. The P4P list should be about activity. Maybe even the fight of Triple G versus Alvarez can be for #1.

Crawford crying about position is ******.

[Boxing Logic]

I agree with TC. Loma a top talent, but many "fans" on here are flavor of the week guys...ride fighters with KO streaks (regardless of their opponents) and abandon them when the KO stops. Happened to Manny, MarGGGarito, Kovy, Nonito, Broker, etc.

And the 2 latest flavors are Spence and Loma. All the sudden everyone is a "fan" and "knew all along".

Please stop lmfao

Your premise is false. Fans don't ride with flavor of the week overrated guys, they ride with elite fighters. Look at the names you mentioned. Manny Pacquiao during his absolute peak was one of the greatest fighters of all time. He beat great opposition. Margarito made Cotto take a knee, and was one of the most dominant and entertaining pressure fighters we've seen in years during his peak. Also a weight bully but at least he fought other top weight bullies. During his peak he was as elite and dangerous as anyone. Now it's come out later that maybe his gloves were loaded, but at the time fans had no way of knowing that. Sergey Kovalev likewise was one of the most dominant and feared fighters in years during his peak. He barely lost a round to anyone and hurt every single opponent he fought. He offered both Adonis Stevenson and Artur Beterbiev fair deals to fight him and both turned him down. He fought Andre Ward on Ward's turf with corrupt/biased refs and judges against him and outthrew, outlanded, outhurt, and outdropped Ward in the first fight, and also should have won more rounds against him over the entirety of the 20 rounds of their fights, and only "lost" the 2nd fight due to corrupt/biased refs. Nonito was close to unbeatable at the lower weights during his peak.

Heck, even Lucas Matthysse gave hell to prime Devon Alexander, beat Lamont Peterson worse than Spence did, and was up 4-0 against Danny Garcia before getting laced or elbowed in the eye which essentially ruined his career from that point forward. Once that eye injury took place he took a beating for the rest of the fight, then DSG wouldn't rematch him so he ended up fighting John Molina (at his peak) and Provodnikov in two more wars, and he's never been the same since then. Then, he re-injured his eye again against Postol. But if not for that eye injury, at his peak, he was on his way to dominating Danny Garcia at 140, something no one else had done, so did we even really overrate Matthysse at his peak, or is it just that his peak was very short due to the eye injury? Plus before that fight he never did any drug testing. DSG's dad even said they were going to put him on drug testing and take him off the juice. So fans have no way of knowing which boxers are good because they're jucing and which aren't. It could just be the case that fans recognize they are great before they do drug testing, but once they get on drug testing, they aren't great anymore so fans lose interest. That doesn't mean fans were overrating them before they went on drug testing, though. It means they really were great before that, but then they weren't.

I could go on and on. Many fans are less interested in GGG now than they were three years ago because he's 36 years old and past his prime, but that doesn't mean they overrated him when he was 30 and at his peak. You just can't say that. Plenty of fans also fell off the BHop train after he lost every round to Kovalev at 50 years old, but that doesn't mean they overrated him when he was 30. You just can't say that.

[Morrie ATG]

Just read the article, Crawford clarified all his points rather easily and I respect that. But Crawford knows this isn’t Vassil’s fault. Its probably because they are both Top Rank it got to him.

The fact that Crawford says that Vassil could have some good moments in their fight proves how good the Ukrainian is. I have a bad feeling Bob Arum is going to use Vassil for Crawford’s gain. When Terence wins the WBO I think Top Rank will push for a catchweight for Lomachenko to win a title. The same way all of Top Rank champions gave into Manny Pacquiao for an opportunity at a catchweight.

[Citizen Koba]

Crawford's year was historic. Ask GGG how hard it is to unify and entire division. It hasn't been done since Hopkins did it a decade ago. I like Lomachenko, but he may never unify all belts in a weight class. It's far easier going from weight class to weight class collecting belts than it is to take them all in a single weight class. It's just the truth.

2017 may have put Crawford in the history books but the fact was he had it kinda easy when it came to unifying - basically had two straps dropped in his lap by Indongo who beat the two weak titlists in the division for him and was willing to fight at the drop of a hat... I'm not intending to downplay Bud's achievement, but as ever in this sport it's as least as much about opportunity as it is about ability.

Myself? Well I think P4P's a pointless sack of ass slime, and neither had a particularly outstanding year in terms of marquee opponents at their own weight.. so take your pick.

[satiev1]

lomachenko needs to beat quality fighters like diaz and julius indongo to be considered the best fighter on the planet and fighter of the year. Forget about the pound for pound ranked calibre rigondeaux, diaz and indongo are the true tests of greatness.

10 years from now we will all remember the legend of indongo and how crawford rose to p4p status after beating a gamboa and indongo. They need to do legendary fights on hbo many years from now regarding the build up to the fight.