Comments Thread For: Crawford: I Don't Rate Lomachenko as P4P 1 or Fighter of The Year!

[FLY TY]

If you rank Spence higher than Mickey on P4P list, then yes you dunno sht about boxing.

Spence is a champ in only one division and beat a guy coming off a loss to do so.

Mickey is champ in 3 divisions, got a great win over Broner in a 4th division, END OFF

If you believe that, then you don't know **** about boxing, sir. Maidana got a "great" win over Broner. Nobody else. Mikey Garcia beat a Broner who already had 2 losses, and many people felt loss his fight before Mikey also. NOBODY considers Broner a "great" fighter, so that cannot be a "great win."

That's like saying beating Amir Khan is a great win nowadays ffs. You are clearly a Mikey Garcia fan (which is fine), but be objective, and you don't have to try to put another fighter down to raise your guy up...and don't try to make fighters he beat, better than they really were.

[The Big Dunn]

Eye test says Sosa's better though it's close. He did fairly well albeit in a losing effort against Walters also. The same Walters who many folks predicted would destroy Loma. Can't argue with the results of Indongo's two fights outside of Namibia, although Burns was washed up. Indongo's first US TV appearance was Crawford FYI so he wasn't a familiar face. The fact that it's close between them yet Indongo was a great opponent for some and Sosa was trash says there's perhaps an agenda.

I personally don't care about the ethnicity. You may only see me in Mayweather threads but you'll never catch me going for or against a fighter because of race. That's inaccurate. I'm probably one of the first people on here to get on Crawford's bandwagon quite some time before he'd won a title. I was also a big fan of Toney, Too Sharp and have been an Andrade fan for a long time. I think Briedis is a more impressive fighter with a better resume and future than Postol. A very valid claim. The people that watch both with regularity would most likely agree with that claim.

Razor always picks the white guy to lose, always talks trash about every white fighter (Usyk, GGG, Loma are bums he claimed), gives no credit even after being proved wrong and every time goes against every white fighter. Huge difference.

Indongo is more accomplished and had as good, if not better win than any Sosa had. he also had no draws or losses. By any fair metric he is better than Sosa, which is why you use the eye test.

There isn't a huge difference. You are subtle about it, he isn't. You continually predict what the response will be if a white fighter wins or loses, you continually make crazy generalizations without proof that black posters will do x or y.

[Mexican_Puppet]

If you believe that, then you don't know **** about boxing, sir. Maidana got a "great" win over Broner. Nobody else. Mikey Garcia beat a Broner who already had 2 losses, and many people felt loss his fight before Mikey also. NOBODY considers Broner a "great" fighter, so that cannot be a "great win."

That's like saying beating Amir Khan is a great win nowadays ffs. You are clearly a Mikey Garcia fan (which is fine), but be objective, and you don't have to try to put another fighter down to raise your guy up...and don't try to make fighters he beat, better than they really were.

García win over Salido is better than Peterson and Brook...

[j.razor]

Why? You are one of the cats now claiming the Rigo fight means nothing (despite picking Rigo easily I might add) because of the size difference so why all of a sudden would Crawford-Lomachenko mean anything especially when they are naturally even further in size away from Loma and Rigo?

Your racism is shining through again as it does in nearly every post of yours.

You are in no position to criticize Loma's year since he won every second of every guy against a guy you said would break him. He made the dude quit in 6 rounds.

Racist oppresses other races. My peoples have not oppressed any race. I am NOT a racist. I am not a moor, black, African, "African American" ect....I give respect where respect is due. You on the other hand....

[Mexican_Puppet]

Indongo is more accomplished and had as good, if not better win than any Sosa had. he also had no draws or losses. By any fair metric he is better than Sosa, which is why you use the eye test.

There isn't a huge difference. You are subtle about it, he isn't. You continually predict what the response will be if a white fighter wins or loses, you continually make crazy generalizations without proof that black posters will do x or y.

No.

Sosa win over Fortuna is better than any win of Indongo.

[The Big Dunn]

Easy to say because the only thing I know is those fights will never happen.

So easy to pick dog sht like you're doing

The thing is you're being ridiculous, Crawford would struggle to beat a top 10 MW, those fighters are 20 lbs heavier, so a TOP 3 MW in Nelo...

Bud still has to beat a top 10 WW in Horn before talking about MW.

Floyd beat a 152 drained 23 years old Nelo.

A 160 grown 27 years old Nelo is different story.

And Crawford ain't no Floyd

why wont they happen? they are all near the same weight. They aren't going to happen now, but the next couple of years its surely possible, especially if all keep winning.

Ok, that is your opinion. I don't agree with you, I think he will win. WHile i do agree we need to see what happens, I have said IF he beats the spence/thurman winner. I am by no means guaranteeing it.

Look if you have to make excuses for Canelo, so be it. He will never be as good as Floyd. That isn't something to be ashamed of.

he may not be Floyd, that doesn't mean he wont beat canelo in a couple years.

[The Big Dunn]

No.

Sosa win over Fortuna is better than any win of Indongo.

I have Troyanovsky and Fortuna on the same level at the time Sosa and Crawford fought them.

Now, I do think Fortuna beat Easter but I don't think you can retroactively apply that. I would also agree Fortuna right now is the better guy given his performance against eatser.

[j.razor]

Dude yours or or crawfords opinion does not mean anything... Fighter of the year recognition by sources such as HBO, ESPN, BWAA. Thats what counts man.. not your or his opinion... Loma already moved up in weight and moving farther, lets see this crawford clown do the same...

Right, by people who NEVER laced them up.

[chrisJS]

twinky, you still stuck on ******? I picked Rigo cuz of how bob played him out from the nonito fight. Go ahead & act dumb & blind like that didn't happen. Bud aint your favorite fighter you putting up a front & you got all salty & tried to put Bud on front street talking about he said it was 50/50 just cuz he knows loma aint fighter of the year. I don't pick by race I pick which fighter has more skill & style match ups. You AWLAYS want to dance around the truth.

So, you picked based on emotional feeling and nothing to do with the actual match? That's why you you say every euro or white is a bum. You contradicted yourself in this post.

I am a Bud fan. I pay to go see him fight. "Front street"? I simply pointed out obviously his mind is changed on that fight since he said he couldn't pick a winner but I'm not mad at him. He's a fighter and he feels he was overlooked. I can admit if a fighter I like says or does something wrong I'm not like you who denies that his celebrity crush beat up a woman and defends that behavior.

[j.razor]

I wish Spence could achieve half of a quarter of what Manny achieved in boxing.

Manny has a better WW record than Spence and we are talking about a former flyweight champion, career featherweight LOL

Your right. Errol would still whoop his a*s too.