is boxing turning into wwe?

[Beercules]

Blame the Bobfather . . .

IBF never ever gains recognition without Arum. WBO never ever gains recognition without Arum.

Arum even tried to put the IBA on the map. People forget that. When King pushed him out of the IBF, Arum jumped in bed with the IBA and tried to put a fifth world title on the map.

Without Arum, we'd have two titles still, and possibly only one as most of the boxing world other than Arum put their support behind the WBC. The WBA only survived because of all of Arum's bribes. Which isn't an unsubstantiated accusation as Arum went public about all the bribes he paid to Pepe Cordero when Arum got mad about Don King pushing him out of the WBA.

Pepe Cordero was blackballed by the WBA when Arum exposed the bribery ring, and of course, Pepe then founded the WBO. The WBO was literally founded by the head of the WBA's bribery operation after Arum exposed everything.

I was talking more along the lines of the interim belts but alright lol.

[MasterPlan]

I always liked torrie wilson. She came out on raw like 2 weeks ago. She looked real good but diffetent

Wait I think Torrie did incorporate the stinkface into her arsenal.

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How do I become an opponent.

[McNulty]

The Bob Father lol.

Honestly the thing that is most annoying is, for me at least -- all the god damn ****ing belts.

I can assist in unannoying you.

I know they're confusing and I'm still confused, but belts are completey necessary and I'll tell you why.

The big money fights are title fights, thats just the way it is unless you're a superstar. But to become a superstar you need to have had belts, lots of belts. When you have even the smallest of belts you get a minimum garuanteed payday.

These numbers might be off and the times reflect changes I'm sure, but a close friend/sparring partner of mine who fought pro and had domestic and world titles told me that even when you got a domestic trinket title like the NABF, you're getting a minimum of 5k (or was it 10k?).

That might not sound like a lot of money to you, but to these guys it is. I used to spar with an ISKA world champ and I think his big title fight check was 15k. It might have been even less than that, having a hard time remembering. I know kickboxing is dead as shít, but dang man 15k or less is horrible.

The belts keep the money going around and it's good for the fighters.

[Eff Pandas]

I did name them

You didn't name 3. You named one twice + another one & it goes back 2 weeks or w/e.

With regards to %, I have no idea but its far far too much. It's definitely not in the single digits.

LOL so 1/10 fights OR MORE goes to the wrong guy? Come on man. Thats silly. I'm not sure I could watch boxing if 10% or more people were randomly winning fights they didn't deserve to win. Boxing would be lottery-ish at that point lmfao. Show up to fight....you just might win.

Like I said if you are counting close fights then maybe it could creep up on double digits, but I don't think it even reaches double digits then. Boxing is a horribly matched sport. I'm not even sure 10% of fights are THAT competitive to begin with for a robbery to even be doable.

Claiming it's a rare event is just not true sadly, corruption is so widespread in the sport that people just expect the wrong guy to win the decision these days. that is ****ed, and makes me want to stop watching the sport.

To me the corruption in the sport happens with ABC groups & promoters not in the ring & with commissions all that much. But yea I'm not saying boxing is on the up & up all day or anything & while there is probably 50%+ fights with a bad scorecard on them the right guy is wining. I definitely am not seeing what you are seeing & I'm throwing out sh^t about corruption in the sport right & left all the time.

Using who we mentioned, Easter Jnr, in his very short career so far of 20 or so fights he shouldn't have any dodgy decisions on his resume, if like you say its an extremely rare event.
Yet he has 3...

Idk what that has to do with anything. Jessie Vargas gots a bunch of dodgy decisions on his record to me too & he don't have that many more fights & iirc many of his sketchier decisions were earlier anyway.

Bad decisions can happen at any level of the game from 4 rounders to 12. And some cats got many & some cats got none. Its probably more about their style of fighting than corruption cuz neither Easter nor Vargas have all that much A side hype with them reallllllly to be getting them pushed up more via bad decisions. Although I still don't see the last fight being anything other than a close fight where I personally thought Fortuna probably deserved it more, but it was close enough neither guy can complain & I don't know that I'd feel that way about either of his two fights you're claiming, but I'm not even recalling one of those fights so maybe not idk.

[N/A]

I was talking more along the lines of the interim belts but alright lol.

Thankfully the industry has cut way back on interim titles. Right now the WBC has zero, the WBA has two, the IBF has one and the WBO has one.

[mlac]

i aient re-quoting all of that in respect for peoples eyes but it has everything to do with it, maybe you misinterpreted 'dodgy decisions' as i am basically implying corruption and paid off officials.

i may be repeating myself but just to attempt to put it into clearer context:

If you are correct with your assessment of 1% then continuing with the example of easter jnr. a relative novice despite his world champion status.
he should have 0 dodgy decisions, lets not even say 1% double or triple it and then double his career fights to 40 + and he should maybe have 1 dodgy decision

In a career of 20 or so fights he has had 3

He lost to commey (imo) and clearly lost to fortuna, and got the most corrupt scorecard you'll likely to see in the shafikov fight.

So clearly that implies that at least 1/10 fights go to the wrong man or at the very least corruption is at play, so not its not silly at all. silly is 1%

[Eff Pandas]

So clearly that implies that at least 1/10 fights go to the wrong man or at the very least corruption is at play, so not its not silly at all. silly is 1%

No it don't. One guy gots f#ck all to do with the overall bad decisions. You can't claim there are more than 1/10 bad decisions cuz one fighter has more than 1/10 bad decisions (allegedly I'd argue). It don't work like that.

Personally I chalk up all Easter's close fights to his fighting style which is down in the trenches & always has a lot of back & forth. And I believe a lot of the reason people are think he's losing these fights instead of they are simply close fights is cuz he's a tall a$$ mfer who fights in a way counter to his attributes so some cats are maybe thinking he's not making that decision himself & the other guy is forcing the tall guy to fight like a short guy. Or arguably just cuz the short guy is staying with the bigger guy they see it as a tie goes to the runner situation.

I'm just not seeing robbery's with Easter (in those two fights, idr remember the Commey fight well enough to comment on it). I'm seeing close fights. And there is a difference & most boxing fans have lil reasonability with close fights. Everything is a robbery even if its 7-5 or 8-4 with a bunch of close competitive rounds. The scoring system don't work like that.

[KillaMane26]

The way G came out the first time Nelo vs GGG was announced was str8 from Monday night raw lol. Kinda cringy tbh

[mlac]

No it don't. One guy gots f#ck all to do with the overall bad decisions. You can't claim there are more than 1/10 bad decisions cuz one fighter has more than 1/10 bad decisions (allegedly I'd argue). It don't work like that.

Personally I chalk up all Easter's close fights to his fighting style which is down in the trenches & always has a lot of back & forth. And I believe a lot of the reason people are think he's losing these fights instead of they are simply close fights is cuz he's a tall a$$ mfer who fights in a way counter to his attributes so some cats are maybe thinking he's not making that decision himself & the other guy is forcing the tall guy to fight like a short guy. Or arguably just cuz the short guy is staying with the bigger guy they see it as a tie goes to the runner situation.

I'm just not seeing robbery's with Easter (in those two fights, idr remember the Commey fight well enough to comment on it). I'm seeing close fights. And there is a difference & most boxing fans have lil reasonability with close fights. Everything is a robbery even if its 7-5 or 8-4 with a bunch of close competitive rounds. The scoring system don't work like that.

Easter was a perfect example because you implied i would have to go back in time to find a robbery, yet i only had to go back 1 week. and then the week before that for another one

2 shows in the first 2 shows, and 2 robberies. Maybe that was a rare occasion eh? oh no it turns out 3 of his last 4 fights all had him A) winning close fights that most people saw him losing or B) had him winning every single round in a very close fight.

If that doesn't prove that it's not extremely rare...then i dont know what else to tell you..

[FinitoxDinamita]

Wrestling is some fake sht for little kids, more like a live cartoon.

Boxing is real and people die in the ring.

No similiarities whatsoever.