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Originally posted by BigStomps View PostWell obviously but that's bullshet! I know you gotta pay the organizations but every ****ing time???
Like I said if boxers formed a union and decided not to pay all these crooked ass alphabet soup organizations any money and not fight for their belts until they cleaned up their mess of having ten ****ing champions per division then who do you think would suffer in the long run???
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostIf you want to get bent out of shape over 2%, so be it. The fights are good fights, that have been made better by the WBC putting their stamp on them.
How would you like it if you did that for a living and a piece of shet organization was taking money out of your pocket everytime you got hit in the face.... I don't think you'd be too happy about it. I've been in plenty of fights in my life. Never made any money off them but I know how it feels to be hit in the face repeatedly do I sympathize with the fighters
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostEvery time one of their belts is at stake and every time you're in an eliminator. The promoter has to pay too. The promoter has to also pay to participate in purse bids even if they lose, pay to be a member of the sanctioning body so they're allowed to pay for the belts, possibly pay for rankings (IBF & WBA have had major bribery scandals and the WBO was founded by the leader of the WBA's bribery ring), etc etc.
The promoters want the organizations though. If the fighters don't want to fight for them, the promoters will find fighters who will. Most of these fighters grow up dirt poor. Their career has a very very small shelf life. They can fight the system and stay broke or take the money and hope for the best.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostIf you want to get bent out of shape over 2%, so be it.
participating boxer must pay three percent (3.0%) of all gross funds or any other form
of consideration received by the boxer relating to the bout, including but not limited
to the gross purse, compensation derived from pay-per-view, cable or satellite
transmission, television broadcast, or internet distribution, merchandising,
concessions, sponsorships, shared promotional fees (in cases in which the boxer is
promoter or co-promoter), or otherwise, including amounts calculated and paid
following the contest.
The gross amount upon which the sanction fee is based includes all sums of money
paid from all national or international sources, is not limited to guaranteed amounts or
minimum amounts stated in bout contracts, and includes sums retained by the
promoter(s) as his (their) promotional fees, as well as any amounts payable by the
boxer to his manager, trainers, or any other party.
On gross compensation up to US$100,000, a minimum of US$3,000.00 shall be due
from a world champion, and US$1,000.00 shall be due from any world challenger or
contender in a world title elimination bout. In the event of a vacant world title, a
minimum of US$2,000.00 shall be due from each boxer.
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Originally posted by BigStomps View PostIt's not right at all. Boxing needs a major overhaul.
I agree the industry would grow if overhauled, but the existing promoters wouldn't benefit from the overhaul. They're understandably going to cling to the past as long as possible.
Haymon is trying to flip the model and very well may tell the sanctioning bodies to piss off some day, but right now he benefits from scaring them into doing what he wants. If he ditches them too early, he allows ESPN & HBO to accumulate a ton of world titles they currently don't have access to.
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostEvery time one of their belts is at stake and every time you're in an eliminator. The promoter has to pay too. The promoter has to also pay to participate in purse bids even if they lose, pay to be a member of the
The promoters want the organizations though. If the sanctioning body so they're allowed to pay for the belts, possibly pay for rankings (IBF & WBA have had major bribery scandals and the WBO was founded by the leader of the WBA's bribery ring), etc etc.
fighters don't want to fight for them, the promoters will find fighters who will. Most of these fighters grow up dirt poor. Their career has a very very small shelf life. They can fight the system and stay broke or take the money and hope for the best.
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostIt's business. There's no such thing as right or wrong. Only legal or illegal (and even that's debatable).
I agree the industry would grow if overhauled, but the existing promoters wouldn't benefit from the overhaul. They're understandably going to cling to the past as long as possible.
Haymon is trying to flip the model and very well may tell the sanctioning bodies to piss off some day, but right now he benefits from scaring them into doing what he wants. If he ditches them too early, he allows ESPN & HBO to accumulate a ton of world titles they currently don't have access to.
But if it's gonna clean up the sport and get rid of all these multiple champions per division situation then I'm all for it.
I hope he does
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Originally posted by BigStomps View PostI remember when Al Haymon first started the PBC branch I read an article somewhere were he wanted to create a new belt. The PBC Championship belt. At first I thought why more belts....
But if it's gonna clean up the sport and get rid of all these multiple champions per division situation then I'm all for it.
I hope he does
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