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  • #51
    Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
    I like the fights but I don't think it's right that the WBC is taking money from these fighters every time they get a chance. That's not right!
    These fighters risk their lives everytime they fight so they should be rewarded appropriately and not have to worry about crooked ass alphabet soup organizations taking money from them everytime they fight. These piece of shet alphabet soup organizations abuse their power and take advantage of the situation! They know they can get away with it so that's why they do it.
    And it's just not right!
    If you want to get bent out of shape over 2%, so be it. The fights are good fights, that have been made better by the WBC putting their stamp on them.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
      Well obviously but that's bullshet! I know you gotta pay the organizations but every ****ing time???
      Every time one of their belts is at stake and every time you're in an eliminator. The promoter has to pay too. The promoter has to also pay to participate in purse bids even if they lose, pay to be a member of the sanctioning body so they're allowed to pay for the belts, possibly pay for rankings (IBF & WBA have had major bribery scandals and the WBO was founded by the leader of the WBA's bribery ring), etc etc.


      Like I said if boxers formed a union and decided not to pay all these crooked ass alphabet soup organizations any money and not fight for their belts until they cleaned up their mess of having ten ****ing champions per division then who do you think would suffer in the long run???
      The promoters want the organizations though. If the fighters don't want to fight for them, the promoters will find fighters who will. Most of these fighters grow up dirt poor. Their career has a very very small shelf life. They can fight the system and stay broke or take the money and hope for the best.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
        If you want to get bent out of shape over 2%, so be it. The fights are good fights, that have been made better by the WBC putting their stamp on them.
        Put yourself in their position... Have you ever been in a fight? Have you ever been punched in the face repeatedly??
        How would you like it if you did that for a living and a piece of shet organization was taking money out of your pocket everytime you got hit in the face.... I don't think you'd be too happy about it. I've been in plenty of fights in my life. Never made any money off them but I know how it feels to be hit in the face repeatedly do I sympathize with the fighters

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        • #54
          Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
          Every time one of their belts is at stake and every time you're in an eliminator. The promoter has to pay too. The promoter has to also pay to participate in purse bids even if they lose, pay to be a member of the sanctioning body so they're allowed to pay for the belts, possibly pay for rankings (IBF & WBA have had major bribery scandals and the WBO was founded by the leader of the WBA's bribery ring), etc etc.




          The promoters want the organizations though. If the fighters don't want to fight for them, the promoters will find fighters who will. Most of these fighters grow up dirt poor. Their career has a very very small shelf life. They can fight the system and stay broke or take the money and hope for the best.
          It's not right at all. Boxing needs a major overhaul.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
            If you want to get bent out of shape over 2%, so be it.
            For each WBC championship and elimination contest, each
            participating boxer must pay three percent (3.0%) of all gross funds or any other form
            of consideration received by the boxer relating to the bout, including but not limited
            to the gross purse, compensation derived from pay-per-view, cable or satellite
            transmission, television broadcast, or internet distribution, merchandising,
            concessions, sponsorships, shared promotional fees (in cases in which the boxer is
            promoter or co-promoter), or otherwise, including amounts calculated and paid
            following the contest.
            The gross amount upon which the sanction fee is based includes all sums of money
            paid from all national or international sources, is not limited to guaranteed amounts or
            minimum amounts stated in bout contracts, and includes sums retained by the
            promoter(s) as his (their) promotional fees, as well as any amounts payable by the
            boxer to his manager, trainers, or any other party.
            On gross compensation up to US$100,000, a minimum of US$3,000.00 shall be due
            from a world champion, and US$1,000.00 shall be due from any world challenger or
            contender in a world title elimination bout. In the event of a vacant world title, a
            minimum of US$2,000.00 shall be due from each boxer.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
              It's not right at all. Boxing needs a major overhaul.
              It's business. There's no such thing as right or wrong. Only legal or illegal (and even that's debatable).

              I agree the industry would grow if overhauled, but the existing promoters wouldn't benefit from the overhaul. They're understandably going to cling to the past as long as possible.

              Haymon is trying to flip the model and very well may tell the sanctioning bodies to piss off some day, but right now he benefits from scaring them into doing what he wants. If he ditches them too early, he allows ESPN & HBO to accumulate a ton of world titles they currently don't have access to.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                Every time one of their belts is at stake and every time you're in an eliminator. The promoter has to pay too. The promoter has to also pay to participate in purse bids even if they lose, pay to be a member of the
                The promoters want the organizations though. If the sanctioning body so they're allowed to pay for the belts, possibly pay for rankings (IBF & WBA have had major bribery scandals and the WBO was founded by the leader of the WBA's bribery ring), etc etc.



                fighters don't want to fight for them, the promoters will find fighters who will. Most of these fighters grow up dirt poor. Their career has a very very small shelf life. They can fight the system and stay broke or take the money and hope for the best.
                *** you and your corrupt pieces of shit bosses at the wbc wba and ibf.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  It's business. There's no such thing as right or wrong. Only legal or illegal (and even that's debatable).

                  I agree the industry would grow if overhauled, but the existing promoters wouldn't benefit from the overhaul. They're understandably going to cling to the past as long as possible.

                  Haymon is trying to flip the model and very well may tell the sanctioning bodies to piss off some day, but right now he benefits from scaring them into doing what he wants. If he ditches them too early, he allows ESPN & HBO to accumulate a ton of world titles they currently don't have access to.
                  I remember when Al Haymon first started the PBC branch I read an article somewhere were he wanted to create a new belt. The PBC Championship belt. At first I thought why more belts....
                  But if it's gonna clean up the sport and get rid of all these multiple champions per division situation then I'm all for it.
                  I hope he does

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME View Post
                    *** you and your corrupt pieces of shit bosses at the wbc wba and ibf.
                    This is how you talk to strangers in real life? Can't imagine you get laid very often.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
                      I remember when Al Haymon first started the PBC branch I read an article somewhere were he wanted to create a new belt. The PBC Championship belt. At first I thought why more belts....
                      But if it's gonna clean up the sport and get rid of all these multiple champions per division situation then I'm all for it.
                      I hope he does
                      lol that and the rumor of them creating their own league like ufc did in mma. don't get your hopes up about al gaymon he's just as shady and corrupt as the abc orgs.

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