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  • #81
    Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
    I get what your saying but if that was to happen then there would be even less dates to go around..
    Take Al Haymon and Showtime for example.. As deep and great a stable as Haymon has at welterweight he hasn't been able to capitalize on it.
    As soon as he left Golden Boy promotions he should of started an 8 men tournament at welterweight.
    Spence, Thurman, Porter, Garcia, Berto, Alexander, Khan, and Guerrero with Ortiz and Collazo as substitutes in case anyone gets hurt.
    Damn that would of really took PBC to the top. But instead he has fighters that fight only once a year, a bunch of mismatches, Fighters on his own stable that are avoiding each other, and other fighters not fighting for lack of dates.
    As it stands it's a lose-lose situation for all the fans. These damn promoters all have big egos and they all trying to take each other out of business.
    So I don't think eliminating HBO would solve anything cause then you would have more fighters fighting only once a year and there would still be plenty of mismatches cause promoters refuse to work with each other.
    I think that's the biggest issue in boxing.
    Promotes egos, not the networks.
    But the split universes is part of why these en****** have to be so careful. Get a few of your guys beat and you could lose major ground in the arms race.

    If PBC was the only game in town, they wouldn't have to be so protective. If Arum had more stars, he wouldn't have to be so protective. If HBO wasn't hanging on by a thread, they wouldn't have to be so focused on trying to block fights like Stevenson-Kovalev, Joshua-Wilder, Garcia-Linares, etc.

    You can go from very powerful to absolutely powerless very quickly in this business. A decade ago Gary Shaw had a virtual monopoly on Showtime dates. Where is he now? A decade ago, Don King still had a lot of power at HBO. Where is he now?

    There is no centralized league. It's the wild west. One or two fighters losing can be the difference between having all the leverage in the world and having no leverage at all.

    The entire structure of the sport need an overhaul and three split universes doesn't benefit the fans IMO.

    Imagine if the NFL was split into three leagues and the best teams never played each other? There's a reason the NFL & AFL merged. There's a reason the National League and the American League merged in baseball. There's a reason the NBA & ABA merged. The public wants one league to follow so they can see the stars vs. the stars.

    Boxing basically had that when HBO was so dominant. This three way split is a nightmare. The only benefit to me is that without Arum, HBO's demise is far more likely and in the long run.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by BufordTannen View Post
      Lol wtf why North Dakota
      Dumb muh****as lol

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      • #83
        Originally posted by MrClutch85 View Post
        This is one of the few good matchups at 140 style wise Prograis is swarmer with good power Postol tall rangy boxer puncher.If Postol can't hurt Prograis stop him from getting inside and the ref won't allow him to hold Prograis wins.If Postol can hurt Prograis stop him from coming in keeping him at long range where he can use his height reach and boxing skills Postol wins
        Postol is getting his head torn off homey..Prograis is going to walk thru the 140pd division.

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        • #84
          Prograis needs to focus on Postol/Garcia not Crawford

          Prograis needs to focus on Postol whose no easy task and if he gets past Postol he will more than likely have Garcia to face so Prograis will have his hands full for the foreseeable future. Maybe even Broner down the line.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
            Put yourself in their position... Have you ever been in a fight? Have you ever been punched in the face repeatedly??
            How would you like it if you did that for a living and a piece of shet organization was taking money out of your pocket everytime you got hit in the face.... I don't think you'd be too happy about it. I've been in plenty of fights in my life. Never made any money off them but I know how it feels to be hit in the face repeatedly do I sympathize with the fighters
            If Regis Prograis and Viktor Postol were simply fighting in a ten rounder, how much money would you think they'd make? What would the check from Showtime look like?

            The fight being a formal final eliminator puts more money on the table for the fighters

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            • #86
              Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
              I get what your saying but if that was to happen then there would be even less dates to go around..
              Take Al Haymon and Showtime for example.. As deep and great a stable as Haymon has at welterweight he hasn't been able to capitalize on it.
              As soon as he left Golden Boy promotions he should of started an 8 men tournament at welterweight.
              Spence, Thurman, Porter, Garcia, Berto, Alexander, Khan, and Guerrero with Ortiz and Collazo as substitutes in case anyone gets hurt.
              Damn that would of really took PBC to the top. But instead he has fighters that fight only once a year, a bunch of mismatches, Fighters on his own stable that are avoiding each other, and other fighters not fighting for lack of dates.
              As it stands it's a lose-lose situation for all the fans. These damn promoters all have big egos and they all trying to take each other out of business.
              So I don't think eliminating HBO would solve anything cause then you would have more fighters fighting only once a year and there would still be plenty of mismatches cause promoters refuse to work with each other.
              I think that's the biggest issue in boxing.
              Promotes egos, not the networks.
              That's crap and you know it.

              HBO are the ones with the huge ego, not promoters. This was made clear in the Kovalev-Stevenson situation.

              Showtime was willing to collaborate with HBO in order to make the fight, the promoters were on board too, but HBO refused to meet anyone halfway in the matter.

              You can't say it's the networks or promoters, in this case it was the network HBO, in another case it might be bob arum (promoter), etc etc.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by The Smash View Post
                San Francisco, cocksucker.
                Originally posted by mrpain81 View Post


                Absolutely loved that show.

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                • #88
                  not a bad fight, we need to see if prograis is just another explosive athlete with a punch, or a real fighter who can overcome limitations that come when a puncher doesn't blow somebody out of the water.

                  postol is not a bad fighter. losing to crawford, one of the best in the world right now and a great fighter, shouldn't damn you forever. interested in the outcome and maybe even the fight. could be interesting.

                  have not seen enough of prograis to be confident in his ability to win. maybe postol gets back on track with this one.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by BigStomps View Post
                    Put yourself in their position... Have you ever been in a fight? Have you ever been punched in the face repeatedly??
                    How would you like it if you did that for a living and a piece of shet organization was taking money out of your pocket everytime you got hit in the face.... I don't think you'd be too happy about it. I've been in plenty of fights in my life. Never made any money off them but I know how it feels to be hit in the face repeatedly do I sympathize with the fighters
                    They dont get these trinket belts on the line for no reason.

                    They make the fight more appealing. Maybe not for us who actually know whats going on, but to the general public it makes a difference

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