One Overlooked Fundamental About CRAWFORD vs Thurman and Spence Jr..

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Crawford will brutalize Thurman.

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Now beating Brook and Peterson makes you ELITE. Seriously has Spence been handing out drugs to his fans? I've seen some outlandish f'ing claims on here over the past few years. The guy beats like two names and is the greatest fighter in a division. A division of guys with single better opponents than Spence's entire resume combined..but he's the best without actually beating an elite fighter. Only in boxing. Oh lest not forgot he beat the juggernaut Algieri.

I would like to see Spence fight Lara. Spence belongs at 154 tbh, but he can make the weight. Spence isn't a big Super Welterweight. I'd say average sized Welter. He's bigger than Trout isn't he?

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I would like to see Spence fight Lara. Spence belongs at 154 tbh, but he can make the weight. Spence isn't a big Super Welterweight. I'd say average sized Welter. He's bigger than Trout isn't he?

I give Spence a year at 147, his body has like zero fat right now and he's weighin at the limit, he's getting to that age where that shhh is going to get harder to do.

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Now beating Brook and Peterson makes you ELITE. Seriously has Spence been handing out drugs to his fans?

e·lite
noun
1. a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities.

Spence is the consensus #2 welterweight in the world. How does that not make him part of a group that is superior to the rest?

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e·lite
noun
1. a select part of a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities.

Spence is the consensus #2 welterweight in the world. How does that not make him part of a group that is superior to the rest?

Besides taking a belt off Brook what even close to elite fighter has he beaten? Rankings don't mean jack shh to me man, we saw Khan go from 140 to being ranked #3 at 147 without having ever set foot in the division or fighting a single round in it. Spence is a promising talent but the reality points back to my original question. When that changes an argument can be made.

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Besides taking a belt off Brook what even close to elite fighter has he beaten?

Any reasonable person would consider a top 5 fighter in a weight class to be an elite fighter. So where exactly do you have Spence ranked at welterweight? I have him ranked #2. Which certainly makes him an elite welterweight. If you have him lower, then please show us your rankings.

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Any reasonable person would consider a top 5 fighter in a weight class to be an elite fighter. So where exactly do you have Spence ranked at welterweight? I have him ranked #2. Which certainly makes him an elite welterweight. If you have him lower, then please show us your rankings.

A solid 4th after beating Brook. Also what is ranking based on? You are saying that an average fighter can't make it to the 4th spot in ranking? Hell we've seen plenty of evidence that ranking makes no sense at times. We've seen underserving mandatory title shots. We are in a transition period for the WW division, it's not nearly as deep as it was even 3 years ago. I've not taken anything away from Spence's talent and possible glory in the future. I'm just really asking the quesiton. Is beating Brook alone enough to make you an elite fighter? Also designating ELITE status based on ranking is silly too. Resumes..that's what makes a fighter elite.

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A solid 4th after beating Brook.

Who are the three welterweights you have ranked ahead of Spence right now?

designating ELITE status based on ranking is silly too. Resumes..that's what makes a fighter elite.

You very clearly don't know what the word elite means. Do you need me to post the definition again?

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I give Spence a year at 147, his body has like zero fat right now and he's weighin at the limit, he's getting to that age where that shhh is going to get harder to do.

I think he knows his time at 147 is limited which is why he's pressing to unify the belts. However, I think Thurman knows that as well and is in no hurry to fight him on his schedule.

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I think he knows his time at 147 is limited which is why he's pressing to unify the belts. However, I think Thurman knows that as well and is in no hurry to fight him on his schedule.

Agreed and I take that into account, I've not discredited his skills as people also want to make it seem. I just am saying we've seen this before with Gary Russell, we've seen this with Broner where suddenly these guys are these elite talents and then run into a wall and the same people calling them elite want to pretend like they never said it or like it was warranted at the time.

Who are the three welterweights you have ranked ahead of Spence right now?




You very clearly don't know what the word elite means. Do you need me to post the definition again?

I don't think you know what the word ELITE means in terms of athletics. You taking the literal definition of it doesn't not mean it's always applicable in context. In this context ranking and public opinion does not make a fighter elite like some want to paint it. ELITE in boxing is resume based. Or are you saying that a third world fighter that's 45 and 0 but has faced nothing but losers is also elite because they rank him in an undeserving position. By some of the logic here Takam this past weekend would've been elite too.