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  • Hairy Sachs Ave
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    One Overlooked Fundamental About CRAWFORD vs Thurman and Spence Jr..

    Would he really have the power to hurt them when Haymon imposes the advisory for the type of drug testing involved? Crawford might be naive here.

    Crawford may have looked spectacular leading up to 147, but I have horrible feeling he will get exposed against Thurman and Spence Jr.

    Take Pac vs Algieri to the power of Spence vs Algieri
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    It sounds like you are assuming Crawford's punching power comes from drugs and without those drugs his punching power would not be there. I think the ability of drugs to increase punching power is vastly overrated. If Crawford is a natural hard puncher then he doesn't need drugs to punch hard. If Crawford could not punch hard naturally I doubt any drug would turn him into a puncher. What drug turns light punchers into heavy punchers? I doubt such a drug exists. Where did old time great punchers like Louis, Dempsey and Robinson get their power from? Not from drugs because there were none back then. I think boxers either punch hard or they don't. If they don't punch hard no drug is going to turn them into a hard puncher. Crawford punches with speed, power and accuracy and that won't change at 147 regardless of any testing Haymon demands. Crawford can hurt Spence and Thurman with his punches and they can hurt Crawford with their punches. I think Crawford beats Thurman but loses to Spence who is the world's best welterweight in my opinion.

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      Originally posted by boliodogs
      It sounds like you are assuming Crawford's punching power comes from drugs and without those drugs his punching power would not be there. I think the ability of drugs to increase punching power is vastly overrated. If Crawford is a natural hard puncher then he doesn't need drugs to punch hard. If Crawford could not punch hard naturally I doubt any drug would turn him into a puncher. What drug turns light punchers into heavy punchers? I doubt such a drug exists. Where did old time great punchers like Louis, Dempsey and Robinson get their power from? Not from drugs because there were none back then. I think boxers either punch hard or they don't. If they don't punch hard no drug is going to turn them into a hard puncher. Crawford punches with speed, power and accuracy and that won't change at 147 regardless of any testing Haymon demands. Crawford can hurt Spence and Thurman with his punches and they can hurt Crawford with their punches. I think Crawford beats Thurman but loses to Spence who is the world's best welterweight in my opinion.
      Not only is Spence the best 147 fighter, he's also the biggest elite at 147. Spence could easily fight at 154 no problem.

      Thurman's been fighting at 147-154 his whole career. It's said he weighs around 156 on fight night.

      Whereas Crawford would fight at 135 and hit up to 153 on fight night. It was also said that at 140 he would still be around 150s. Thing is Crawford could have already been fighting at Welterweight.

      Thurman beats Crawford. Jesus Soto Karass' overall mass is significantly bigger than Indongo's, especially on fight night. Indongo wasn't a challenge. Guy was a toothpick. Crawford gets hurt bad by Thurman if caught flush. Keith been hit by strong guys.

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        Originally posted by Hairy Sachs Ave
        Not only is Spence the best 147 fighter, he's also the biggest elite at 147. Spence could easily fight at 154 no problem.

        Thurman's been fighting at 147-154 his whole career. It's said he weighs around 156 on fight night.

        Whereas Crawford would fight at 135 and hit up to 153 on fight night. It was also said that at 140 he would still be around 150s. Thing is Crawford could have already been fighting at Welterweight.

        Thurman beats Crawford. Jesus Soto Karass' overall mass is significantly bigger than Indongo's, especially on fight night. Indongo wasn't a challenge. Guy was a toothpick. Crawford gets hurt bad by Thurman if caught flush. Keith been hit by strong guys.
        skillz pay the bills hairy

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          Originally posted by Boxfan83
          skillz pay the bills hairy
          I don't know. My hairy balls say that John Molina was doodoo amateur vs DeMarco. Dumbest corner defense of all time. Took Crawford and Broner more time to rid of Molina than toothpick DeMarco. DeMarco gave Figueroa Jr. hell.

          ''I'm telling you thun....you better not doubt me thun!''

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            Wut?

            If anybody is su****iously dirty at 147 it's Spence.

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              errol already kod the BEST WW!!!! kell brook would beat thurman, garcia, horn and he already beat porter. its just a matter of time before errol gets the rest of the belts.

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                So you suspect crawford of being a PED user? or a drug cheat?

                I never thought about that since his resume is full of bums a regular above average fighter should be able to beat who had the size advantage.

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                  Originally posted by .!WAR MIKEY!
                  So you suspect crawford of being a PED user? or a drug cheat?

                  I never thought about that since his resume is full of bums a regular above average fighter should be able to beat who had the size advantage.
                  All I'm saying is Thurman will fare well against TC. He has the power and backing of Haymon, same way Haymon backs Wilder. Against Spence, TC is pushing it. 147 is a different level. Horn will also be allowed the juice.

                  TC is going to be 31 this year. How he was making 135 at 27 years of age when he walks around 170 plus with still a good physique. It's just that Top Rank, when doing in house pool joints, the promoter has control of everything, giving the fighters a green light by instruction... Why else did Arum have a tantrum when Rigo wanted USADA along with VADA? It's not like Top Rank couldn't afford it. Those are things to merit your fighter, not ditch them. Also Conte left Donaire throughout camp.

                  So how could Bud perform when exhausted at 135 and do havoc on fight night?



                  UFC stars never get caught with PEDS.
                  Last edited by Hairy Sachs Ave; 01-30-2018, 02:35 PM.

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                    Originally posted by Hairy Sachs Ave
                    Not only is Spence the best 147 fighter, he's also the biggest elite at 147. Spence could easily fight at 154 no problem.

                    Thurman's been fighting at 147-154 his whole career. It's said he weighs around 156 on fight night.

                    Whereas Crawford would fight at 135 and hit up to 153 on fight night. It was also said that at 140 he would still be around 150s. Thing is Crawford could have already been fighting at Welterweight.

                    Thurman beats Crawford. Jesus Soto Karass' overall mass is significantly bigger than Indongo's, especially on fight night. Indongo wasn't a challenge. Guy was a toothpick. Crawford gets hurt bad by Thurman if caught flush. Keith been hit by strong guys.
                    Now beating Brook and Peterson makes you ELITE. Seriously has Spence been handing out drugs to his fans? I've seen some outlandish f'ing claims on here over the past few years. The guy beats like two names and is the greatest fighter in a division. A division of guys with single better opponents than Spence's entire resume combined..but he's the best without actually beating an elite fighter. Only in boxing. Oh lest not forgot he beat the juggernaut Algieri.

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