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Originally posted by lion33lit View PostThat "intimidated"
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Originally posted by Redgloveman View Post"Why should Wilder batter a past prime Wlad?"
Because he would have established himself as the dominant force in the division. That's why. If he had done that, it would be AJ chasing Wilder, not the other way around. Wilder would have the bargaining power in the negotiations, not the other way around.
By letting AJ get to Wlad first, Wilder let AJ steal a march on him, and now Joshua has all the greatest momentum and bargaining power in the division. He's a megastar in the UK and arguably more famous in the US than Wilder is himself. Wilder allowed that to happen by not getting to Wlad first... which leads on to my next point.
Trying to argue that Wlad was washed up and would have been destroyed by Wilder only serves to show how poorly managed Wilder's career has been thus far. Whether that's down to a lack of confidence or rank ******ity is anyone's guess.
You're getting a green k for this because I have said the same thing. It's like folks STILL ignore what Shelley Finkel said after Wilder won the WBC title from Stiverne in reference to fighting Wlad. Dude said that Wilder was too green after 33 or so fights, but Hearn was willing to have Joshua fight Wlad after 19 fights. Now AJ is the man in the UK and like you said is bigger in the US than Wilder.
Wilder has not even reached a 2 million dollar purse for any fight and may not do so against Ortiz, yet he expects 14 to 20 million in a potential fight against Joshua and acts like he holds the negotiating advantage. He needs to cut the **** real talk
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Originally posted by Ray* View PostTyson Fury is younger, took a risk and fought Wlad, back by to Wilder country and called him straight out. Wilder was shooked! Thats going by what i saw.
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Originally posted by JRB123 View PostRight on the cot dayum money.
You're getting a green k for this because I have said the same thing. It's like folks STILL ignore what Shelley Finkel said after Wilder won the WBC title from Stiverne in reference to fighting Wlad. Dude said that Wilder was too green after 33 or so fights, but Hearn was willing to have Joshua fight Wlad after 19 fights. Now AJ is the man in the UK and like you said is bigger in the US than Wilder.
Wilder has not even reached a 2 million dollar purse for any fight and may not do so against Ortiz, yet he expects 14 to 20 million in a potential fight against Joshua and acts like he holds the negotiating advantage. He needs to cut the **** real talk
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Originally posted by Redgloveman View PostI'm not the biggest AJ fan, and I do think Wilder might have levels that we haven't seen because he hasn't really been in the toughest fights, but
"Why should Wilder batter a past prime Wlad?"
Because he would have established himself as the dominant force in the division. That's why. If he had done that, it would be AJ chasing Wilder, not the other way around. Wilder would have the bargaining power in the negotiations, not the other way around.
By letting AJ get to Wlad first, Wilder let AJ steal a march on him, and now Joshua has all the greatest momentum and bargaining power in the division. He's a megastar in the UK and arguably more famous in the US than Wilder is himself. Wilder allowed that to happen by not getting to Wlad first... which leads on to my next point.
Trying to argue that Wlad was washed up and would have been destroyed by Wilder only serves to show how poorly managed Wilder's career has been thus far. Whether that's down to a lack of confidence or rank ******ity is anyone's guess.
and as for your statement about Wilder wanting "Young Prime comp"
Young prime comp like Ortiz?
Young prime comp like Stiverne?
Young prime comp like Washington?
Young prime comp like Arreola?
Young prime comp like Szpilka?.. Duhap?.. Molina?
Those names are either old, unknown, or known to be terrible. It doesn't look like the resume of a 7 times defending world champion with 39 fights.
Seriously, I've not been posting long here, but I've found myself repeating this, DON'T TRY TO DEFEND WILDER'S RECORD. I don't know who will win between Wilder and AJ, because Wilder could raise his level to a level we've not seen before. I think he's one of those fighters who drops his level to the standard of his opposition sometimes (like Billy Joe Saunders and arguably Tyson Fury do) but if you throw him in there against AJ he might show his true level, which is what makes the fight so interesting.
But just DON'T try to defend his record. His record is s**t, and people who can't see that just look ****** or like they DKSAB imho.
Wilder fought what was available and even traveled - which is no crime, and even then the better than average comp was CAUGHT using PEDS!......you wont acknowledge this because Wlad seems to be the ONLY measuring stick in your book aside from the fact he was the PAST PRIME hugfest champion...... BOTH Wilder & Joshua had less than stellar comp, but theyre the most dedicated at there sport and are both KO artists - THATS WHY they NEED to fight each other........its that simple. Now u can continue on your one sided hater fueled tirade towards Wilder......
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