Comments Thread For: Wilder: I'll Enter The Ring, Go Face To Face With Joshua in Cardiff!

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when Wilder had the opportunity to unify the titles in 2015 after 33 professional fights, his co-manager said that he was not ready.

But you're lying about him having the opportunity. Klitschko and Jennings had already been in negotiations for months before Wilder even won the title.

His manager said he needed two fights to get ready for Klitschko, so he quickly got in two defenses and then called out Klitschko in Forbes magazine to let the world know he was ready to fight Klitschko ASAP.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2015/11/10/deontay-wilder-i-could-beat-wladimir-klitschko-tomorrow/#11d980761fea

Klitschko had a mandatory defense against Fury and then Wilder wanted the winner. It's not Wilder's fault Klitschko lost.

What was this magical time frame in 2015 where Klitschko was available?

[JRB123]

But you're lying about him having the opportunity. Klitschko and Jennings had already been in negotiations for months before Wilder even won the title.

His manager said he needed two fights to get ready for Klitschko, so he quickly got in two defenses and then called out Klitschko in Forbes magazine to let the world know he was ready to fight Klitschko ASAP.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2015/11/10/deontay-wilder-i-could-beat-wladimir-klitschko-tomorrow/#11d980761fea

Klitschko had a mandatory defense against Fury and then Wilder wanted the winner. It's not Wilder's fault Klitschko lost.

What was this magical time frame in 2015 where Klitschko was available?

Let's see I could respond to this on two fronts.

First, you mean to tell me that after Klitschko's fight against Jennings that he wasn't available? Wilder was available after his first defense and/or something could have been negotiated for them to have a unification.

Something tells me that you'll respond to this by repeating the mandatory spot that Fury had...well, Klitschko could have relinquished that belt and still fought Wilder for the WBO, IBO, IBF, and WBC titles. But there's something else...

You said that "His manager said he needed two fights to get ready for Klitschko". Wrong. That is not what happened. He knew what the plans were for Wilder which was a mandatory defense in 2016 after two defenses. They added another one against Szpilka before he wanted to obligate his mandatory defense.

That article that you referenced is funny to me. It shows Wilder saying that he's ready to fight someone that is already booked to have a fight against someone else. He likes to do that often.

[Raggamuffin]

Maybe in your view, but for me it is. Since people seem to claim that Wilder is this guy that really wants to fight these "high profile" fights, there are those that prove that is not true. I am one of those people.



Why not? He talked about Fury before both of them won world titles...

“The fight between me and Tyson Fury will definitely happen one day soon. The hype has been building like it’s been planned and once it gets to the peak where it’s an absolute must that fight’s going to happen,” said Wilder.

http://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-talks-tyson-fury-2014-title-shot-klitschko-fight--70976

Fury said he was ready to go for Wilder after Haye had to back out of the planned fight between them due to injury.

"And I know Wilder's team talk a good fight and they say it's me [who is holding up negotiations], but I can guarantee you now it's nothing to do with me because I would go to America no problem, and do the same as I did to Steve Cunningham in April."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1913763-tyson-fury-rips-deontay-wilder-wladimir-klitschko-and-david-haye

What I mean by that is when Wilder was and has been talking about wanting to fight Anthony Joshua, there has been nothing from their side to get a meeting set up or an offer made to make that fight happen. No one in Wilder's team - DiBella, Deas, Finkel, or Haymon - contacted Joshua or Hearn about making a fight happen at any point before the week of November 5th-11th of last year. If so, then someone has to point out when that happened.



No reluctancy?

First, the claims that he was ready to fight Wlad were shot down by his co-manager Shelley Finkel. This was after Wilder won the WBC world title in 2015.

“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin in Russia and make $10 million. It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete." - Shelley Finkel

http://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-not-rushed-klitschko-says-finkel--86714

So right there when Wilder had the opportunity to unify the titles in 2015 after 33 professional fights, his co-manager said that he was not ready.



Define what the term "fight talk" is that you state. What I am implying is that Wilder has not proven anything to show that he is the best heavyweight. He has one win against a top ten opponent in 39 fights. One.



AJ has two top ten wins in 20 fights. Povetkin has 5 in 34 fights. Parker and Ortiz have one each in a less amount of pro fights, and Pulev has two in 26 pro fights. Wilder has more pro fights than all of them and only one top ten win. That's it.



How has Wilder been embarrassing Joshua in the media? This is the same guy that in the middle of a back and forth with Briggs didn't know that Shannon fought Lennox Lewis.

Yes Fury stepped to Wilder but I stated earlier that Mick Hennessy was working on having them two fight way before that and it didn't happen.

Bellew was in the middle of an interview when Wilder was screaming his azz off. That's when Bellew responded.

Folks gotta come to grips with the agenda of Wilder. Get a world belt the easiest way possible and then have the least path of resistance to get a big money fight with Anthony Joshua.

That's wild...Joshua will have faced the #1, #9, and #4 fighter in the PBO ranking system in 3 consecutive fights while Wilder on the flip side would have faced two fighters in the top ten in 40 professional fights and over nine years as a pro.

Bruh, do you know why you wrote all of this? It's because it is your opinion that Wilder DOESN'T want to participate in high profile fights. You fail to understand that he signed up for this.

I happen to disagree with you on that matter Joshua is fighting his second top 10 ranked fighter. The difference between the two is Joshua is about to fight his 2nd too 10 guy and Wilder is about to fight his second.

And fight talk is fight talk. What you take as their word, I don't because it's fight talk. That's what they do. Wilder is doing the talking now and their paths didn't cross then where titles were on the line. Now their paths have crossed since both are champions and your boy is shook. His stiff ass is shook. Talking about fighting Wilder in 2019 or 2020. Joshua was embarrassed by boxing fans. Embarrassed!!!

You quoted Finkel. Why lol? His comments are from a managers point of view. Wlad was never a mandatory. That was a future unification fight. You have no point in why you even brought up that quote, lol.

I can ask why didn't Joshua fight Wlad after he beat Martin? Joshua chose the right time to fight Wlad after a loss and long layoff.

And dont even mention Fury and Wilder until Fury is all the way back. Discussing those two and when they could've fought is not relevant.

And the PBO system has nothing to do with nothing.
Bellew is a ****en bum. Don't mention him at all, lmao. Fans only see that Joshua will have fought Wlad and Parker and fans will see that Wilder has fought Stiverne and then Ortiz.

And your blatant inaccuracy about Wilders "agenda" is hilarious to read. Get a world belt, path of least resistance, and get a big money fight with Joshua. Let me guess, in the U.K. right? Lmfao. You're just like all of the other Joshua fanatics only you just wrote more bull**** and believe your own exaggerations lol.

Do the board a favor and shorten your answers. You're just repeating what we've all been arguing for over the last year or more.

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Klitschko could have relinquished that belt and still fought Wilder for the WBO, IBO, IBF, and WBC titles.

False. Fury was the WBA and the WBO mandatory. Klitschko would have had to ditch two belts. Something he would have never considered. He wouldn't have been willing to ditch one, let alone two.

That article that you referenced is funny to me. It shows Wilder saying that he's ready to fight someone that is already booked to have a fight against someone else. He likes to do that often.

Did you actually read the article? Wilder wanted to fight Klitschko after the Fury fight. Not his fault Klitschko lost. You forget that Wilder and Klitschko had the same manager. That fight was being seriously considered by both sides for 2016 until Fury upset Klitschko.

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LOL blatant inaccuracy

If that was the case, then Wilder wouldn't be crying for a 50-50 split in a fight against Joshua. On one side he claims to fight for a legacy and then on the other side he wants an even purse split with AJ.

Sure bruh, sure.

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lets be fair here. It’s no time wilder’s fault that:

1) he wasn’t ready for klitschko fight
2) povetkin failed drug test
3) Klitschko lost to fury just when he was “ready” to fight
4) Ortiz failed drug test
5) Joshua won’t accept a 50/50
6) Parker chose Joshua fight over him
7) whyte is not “big enough” name for him
8) nobody has heard of almost his entire resume
9) everyone he calls someone out they happen to just have arranged a scheduled fight
10) he “forgot” to call out Joshua when watching him at Wembley and instead ended up arguing with Bellew
11) stiverne rematch was against a really old unbothered opponent
12) his 27 fans (all on boxing scene), including the three musketeers, think he is the worlds greatest

I mean come on guys let’s give him a break, he’s only had seven years , or around 2500 days - to fight decent opponents so far. Give him a chance ffs.

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11) stiverne rematch was against a really old unbothered opponent

Ain't it funny how some people continuously bring up Wlad as an "old" opponent but say nothing about Stiverne being 39 years old in his 2nd fight against Wilder?