Comments Thread For: Adonis Stevenson vs. Eleider Alvarez Will Happen, Says Michel

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no pbc didn’t drop Espn or NbC. Pbc owed them more time buys that didn’t get fulfilled don’t get twisted.

PBC chose not to fulfill those dates because they didn't want to throw good money after bad. PBC came out full force pursuing NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX. There was no way to know who would be most receptive. CBS & FOX showed the most interest, so that's where PBC turned their attention. Why pay for more dates on NBC & ABC (ESPN) when you've already figured out they're not going to spend big money on boxing?

Pbc has the same or less control over showtime as 2015.

False. It was easier for non-Haymon talent to get on Showtime in 2015 than it is in 2018. Showtime and Haymon are far more committed to each other in 2018 than they were in 2015 and Showtime secured that commitment by increasing their budget.

Pbc doesn’t have joshua and he’s the biggest star on showtime. That’s a fact. When the bidding war for his service begins it will come at the expense of Pbc budget.

Dude, you're just repeatedly posting false information over and over. Look at the ratings. Showtime's biggest stars are Wilder and Broner, not Joshua. Showtime wants to make Wilder vs. Joshua and if that fight can't be made, their interest in Joshua greatly diminishes. Hearn is going to try to leverage AJ to get a ton of dates out of HBO and try to become one of HBO's primary promoters. If HBO is willing to go for that, there's not much SHO can do to stop it. Remains to be seen whether HBO will go for that. Things could look very different shortly. Especially if HBO gets UFC & Zuffa Boxing. There are a lot of balls in the air. Joshua is not the be all end all for SHO. They want to make him vs. Wilder. If they can't, they can't. They're not going to be willing to give Hearn 12-18 dates a year just to secure Joshua.

PBc isn’t growing. Haymon didn’t get any top 2016 Olympians so they don’t have any top young fighters either.

He's slowly locking up almost every non-WBO belt in all the top weight classes. Haymon's stable is built to dominate for the next 5-10 years. How can you say PBC isn't growing when SHO is paying more than ever for PBC, a FOX deal is on the horizon, and PBC's army of world champions continues to grow?

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Why can't this Yvon Michel clown just admit he has zero power in making meaningful fights happen for Chickenson?

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Why can't this Yvon Michel clown just admit he has zero power in making meaningful fights happen for Chickenson?

He just made Stevenson vs. Jack happen. That fight isn't meaningful? Stevenson is the WBC champion and Jack just vacated the WBA title in order to take this fight.

Stevenson is the lineal champion and Badou Jack is #1 in the world according to the computerized IBO rankings. This is one of the best fights that can be made at light heavyweight and you're still complaining.

Maybe you're just a very negative person?

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He just made Stevenson vs. Jack happen. That fight isn't meaningful? Stevenson is the WBC champion and Jack just vacated the WBA title in order to take this fight.

Stevenson is the lineal champion and Badou Jack is #1 in the world according to the computerized IBO rankings. This is one of the best fights that can be made at light heavyweight and you're still complaining.

Maybe you're just a very negative person?

He made it happen? Come on guy, Chickenson can't refuse Jack now. It's just effing too much for fans to take if Adonis takes another stiff for his next fight. Chickenson is finally feeling the pressure.

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PBC chose not to fulfill those dates because they didn't want to throw good money after bad. PBC came out full force pursuing NBC, ABC, CBS and FOX. There was no way to know who would be most receptive. CBS & FOX showed the most interest, so that's where PBC turned their attention. Why pay for more dates on NBC & ABC (ESPN) when you've already figured out they're not going to spend big money on boxing?




False. It was easier for non-Haymon talent to get on Showtime in 2015 than it is in 2018. Showtime and Haymon are far more committed to each other in 2018 than they were in 2015 and Showtime secured that commitment by increasing their budget.




Dude, you're just repeatedly posting false information over and over. Look at the ratings. Showtime's biggest stars are Wilder and Broner, not Joshua. Showtime wants to make Wilder vs. Joshua and if that fight can't be made, their interest in Joshua greatly diminishes. Hearn is going to try to leverage AJ to get a ton of dates out of HBO and try to become one of HBO's primary promoters. If HBO is willing to go for that, there's not much SHO can do to stop it. Remains to be seen whether HBO will go for that. Things could look very different shortly. Especially if HBO gets UFC & Zuffa Boxing. There are a lot of balls in the air. Joshua is not the be all end all for SHO. They want to make him vs. Wilder. If they can't, they can't. They're not going to be willing to give Hearn 12-18 dates a year just to secure Joshua.




He's slowly locking up almost every non-WBO belt in all the top weight classes. Haymon's stable is built to dominate for the next 5-10 years. How can you say PBC isn't growing when SHO is paying more than ever for PBC, a FOX deal is on the horizon, and PBC's army of world champions continues to grow?

Dude why do you talk about cbs and fox? I can count all of their 2017 dates combined on one hand and not use my thumb lol. Those aren’t big deals. Cbs got great ratings on 2 cards over two years and that’s all they did. They aren’t that interested lol. Can’t you see it? Fox showed 3 crappy cards. That’s it.

Pbc just lost Selby’s belt and beterbievs. Only has 1 heavyweight belt. Stop drinking the kool aid. They only have one light heavyweight belt too and are close to losing that.

Top rank or don king is about to take the wbc 140. They aren’t gaining. Look at this logically without bias.

You still haven’t answered this question, why did beterbiev Selby Frampton Khan Herring all leave pbc? Answer that.

Also answer why Errol soende was close to leaving.

As for Joshua. It’s cute of u to say Broner and wilder are the top ratings at showtime (even though they are way lower than before and if Broner loses to Figueroa he will be irrelevant) but u also try to be slick knowing Joshua fights in the UK. U know as well as I know if he fought in the US on prime time he would blow wilder and broners ratings away.

There’s a reason joshua makes 10x bigger purses than wilder. Hell Parker is making over 4x the biggest purse wilder ever made.

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Why can't this Yvon Michel clown just admit he has zero power in making meaningful fights happen for Chickenson?

Yeah, this promoter of Stevenson, whatever his girly name is, is powerless when Sir Adonis says no.
I think their cherrypicking years are finally catching up with them to the point where even the most tolerant of fans would puke if Adonis' next fight is another Suhotsky or whatever the hell the name is.

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He made it happen? Come on guy, Chickenson can't refuse Jack now. It's just effing too much for fans to take if Adonis takes another stiff for his next fight. Chickenson is finally feeling the pressure.

You say he won't make meaningful fights, then he makes one and you still complain. Why not just admit you hate your life? That's clearly the real issue here.

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Dude why do you talk about cbs and fox? I can count all of their 2017 dates combined on one hand

FOX is four times a year. CBS is one time a year. NBC was never much more than that.

Pbc just lost Selby’s belt and beterbievs. Only has 1 heavyweight belt. Stop drinking the kool aid. They only have one light heavyweight belt too and are close to losing that.

Haymon had the pieces in position to pick up multiple belts vacated by Crawford and if you look through the rankings, you see that Haymon will continue to accumulate for years to come.

Top rank or don king is about to take the wbc 140. They aren’t gaining. Look at this logically without bias.

Haymon had zero belts at 140 before. Now he has two. So he doesn't have the WBC. So what? He'll have it soon enough and 140 will be another weight class where he has ever non-WBO belt.

You still haven’t answered this question, why did beterbiev Selby Frampton Khan Herring all leave pbc? Answer that.

Haymon had US rights to fighters who can make more money outside of the US. Frampton is still with PBC by the way. Haymon is steering his UK talent to Warren now instead of Hearn as payback for Hearn signing Jacobs.

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FOX is four times a year. CBS is one time a year. NBC was never much more than that.




Haymon had the pieces in position to pick up multiple belts vacated by Crawford and if you look through the rankings, you see that Haymon will continue to accumulate for years to come.




Haymon had zero belts at 140 before. Now he has two. So he doesn't have the WBC. So what? He'll have it soon enough and 140 will be another weight class where he has ever non-WBO belt.




Haymon had US rights to fighters who can make more money outside of the US. Frampton is still with PBC by the way. Haymon is steering his UK talent to Warren now instead of Hearn as payback for Hearn signing Jacobs.

more lies. Khan went to Hearn not Warren. So Haymon isn’t steering. It’s where the fighters can get the best deals.

Haymon has 3 featherweight belts and just lost selbys. He just lost beterbievs at 175. Plus U aren’t accounting for the next round of defections.

You still haven’t spoken on how Spence almost signed with promoter. I’m still waiting for that.

U say cbs is 1 fight a year which comes from showtimes budget so in essence ts nothing. You say 4 fox shows a year which is almost nothing but it was only 3 last year don’t make things up. And the budget for fox time buys keeps shrinking.

You went silent on how u tried to compare Joshua’s matinee ratings versus broners and wilders primetime ratings and how Joseph Parker is going to make in 1 fight almost more than wilder has in HIS ENTIRE career.

Plus your theory on holding belts gets squashed by mandatories. Good chance Gvozdyk takes that 175 lb wbc belt and Joshua talked wilders wbc heavyweight belt. I think Gary Russell’s belt is safe vs jojo diaz but they are close to losing a lot more than just selby and beterbievs belt.

Also explain why Haymon didn’t get any Olympians and besides Jessie Vargas is no longer signing fighters and losing them. Also explain why fighters like porter Trout barthelemy etc are publicly complaining about their inactivity.

I see how u pick and choose what u answer.

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more lies. Khan went to Hearn not Warren.

Nobody said he went to Warren.

I see how u pick and choose what u answer.

Because you just post a ton of false information and expect me to wade through all of it. Waste of time. How many times do you have to be caught in a lie only for you to change the subject and post 30 more lies?