Comments Thread For: Andre Ward Hints at Comeback? At Higher Weight?

[Mr Objecitivity]

If Usyk wins the tournament (which I don't think he will), I would think he'd fight Ward if the opportunity is there unfortunately.

He will also fight in the US where Ward will get his usual VIP treatment from his officials to secure another dull and dirty win.

If Usyk fights Ward in USA, then he is a ****** and he will deserve to lose if he does lose. One must learn from mistakes and he already should know what happened to Kovalev after Kovalev made this mistake.

[Mr Objecitivity]

Andre Ward is, right now, 200lbs, without any fight on the schedule (giving him more time to comfortably max out his frame).

Usyk has the height, but you're a put if you think that Usyk is going to have a giant size advantage (especially with Ward being 200lbs right now).

The only folks who hate on Andre Ward, are basically fans of the Eastern bloc, and that's without any real doubt, lol.

Andre Ward is, right now, 200lbs, without any fight on the schedule (giving him more time to comfortably max out his frame).

And Oleksandr Usyk, by the time he finishes the cruiser weight tournament will be weighing over 220 pounds and already weighs between 215-220 pounds.

And if Ward currently weighs what you're claiming. Then you have to agree to one of the two options:

a) Either Andre Ward is naturally 200 pounds and has been a weight bully all this time when he was competing at super middleweight and light heavyweight against smaller sized opponents. Thus, his accomplishments are diminished and not as great as a result.

b) Or Andre Ward isn't naturally 200 pounds but is taking the time out to artificially reach that size through consuming artificial athletic performance enhancing chemicals (Performance enhancing drugs, human growth hormones, steroids and etc). Thus, his potential success is going to have asterisk over it again and will have lesser value than what he should have.

Usyk has the height, but you're a put if you think that Usyk is going to have a giant size advantage (especially with Ward being 200lbs right now).

You're assuming Ward is the only one who is going to add weight. Usyk drains himself to make cruiser weight. He is a huge cruiser weight and if he was competing at heavyweight, then he would be weighing around 230 pounds. So Usyk still is going to have a huge weight advantage unless Ward can move up to heavyweight and weigh around the same weight as Usyk

The only folks who hate on Andre Ward, are basically fans of the Eastern bloc, and that's without any real doubt, lol.

That's your false / erroneous / mistaken assumption. I'm not an Eastern European and I don't like Ward. And I know many individuals who aren't Eastern Europeans that also dislike Andre Ward.

Why do people dislike Ward? Because of the following reasons:

1) He is a weak feather fisted puncher that has never scored a clean knockout in his entire career.

2) He is a constant fouler that consistently breaks the official rules of boxing in practically every bout against a top level opponent.

3) He is unwilling and has never fought a top level opponent outside of USA.


This is total contrast to someone like Roy Jones Jr or Mike Tyson who have abundance of fans from Eastern Europe and from other parts of the world, globally speaking.

Go and ask an average Russian boxing fan in Russia who their favorite boxer is. They would usually answer by saying either:

1) Mike Tyson

2) Roy Jones Jr

3) And sometimes Muhammad Ali


And it's because of their boxing style and actions. Very little to nothing to do with nationality.

Very few fans from Russia, Eastern Europe as a whole or from other parts of the world are going to remember Andre Ward as highly as Mike Tyson or Roy Jones Jr.

[Mr Objecitivity]

They all moved to America, to try and make it in America, they know that's the market they need. They can't make the big money anywhere else. Usyk and Loma want to build their fanbase in America why would they choose to fight an American somewhere else? You're making no sense. That "local hero" makes more than Usyk by a lot. Usyk has to travel because he isn't a draw.

A lot of them moved to not just America, but to many other countries to make it in many other countries and to gain fans in many other countries.

The Klitschko brothers are two of the greatest ambassadors of the sport of boxing in the last decade and they never needed to fight at USA to be successful.They still did, along with fighting in other places too because they are 'INTERNATIONAL' and 'GLOBAL' stars that have fans from all over the world. It's not because they absolutely NEEDED to for their success.

Likewise, Usyk's case is somewhat similar to the Klitschkos. He isn't only fighting in USA but in nearly every opponent's back yard. That's just a fact! He fought Glowacki in Poland, A Polish boxer! He fought the American Michael Hunter in USA. He fought Marco Huck in Germany. And now he is about to face Breidis in his backyard in Latvia.


All of that = trying to make it globally all over the world as a global / international champion and not just in USA as an American champion (like Ward for example).

Lomachenko's case is different to Usyk because he is promoted by an American promoter whilst Usyk is promoted by K2 promotions (owned by the Klitschkos) which isn't an American promotion. So whilst Lomachenko is trying more to make it in USA. That isn't the case with Usyk.

Also, Dariusz Michaelczewski has fought his entire career in Germany. Ergo, disproving the myth that a foreigner must come to USA to be sufficiently successful. Likewise, Alexander Povetkin can sell out arenas in Russia and also make sufficiently enough money and have sufficient success whilst being promoted by one of the richest promoters in boxing today (Ryabinski), who isn't even an American but a Russian.

The idea that one must come to USA for sufficient success is a myth. If Usyk wins the tournament and becomes the undisputed champion, he becomes the A side and he gets to dictate the terms and condition for Andre Ward if Ward wants the fight. This means, Ward may need to travel to Ukraine with Ukrainian officials, judges and referee officiating the bout and then we will get to see how good and brave Ward really is then.

[Shrap]

Ward is never fighting Usyk or Joshua. He is smarter than that. He would get his a** beat pillar to post if he took either one of them on.

Expect Ward to take on Bellew or someone on a similar level if he returns.

[Scipio2009]

And Oleksandr Usyk, by the time he finishes the cruiser weight tournament will be weighing over 220 pounds and already weighs between 215-220 pounds.

And if Ward currently weighs what you're claiming. Then you have to agree to one of the two options:

a) Either Andre Ward is naturally 200 pounds and has been a weight bully all this time when he was competing at super middleweight and light heavyweight against smaller sized opponents. Thus, his accomplishments are diminished and not as great as a result.

b) Or Andre Ward isn't naturally 200 pounds but is taking the time out to artificially reach that size through consuming artificial athletic performance enhancing chemicals (Performance enhancing drugs, human growth hormones, steroids and etc). Thus, his potential success is going to have asterisk over it again and will have lesser value than what he should have.



You're assuming Ward is the only one who is going to add weight. Usyk drains himself to make cruiser weight. He is a huge cruiser weight and if he was competing at heavyweight, then he would be weighing around 230 pounds. So Usyk still is going to have a huge weight advantage unless Ward can move up to heavyweight and weigh around the same weight as Usyk



That's your false / erroneous / mistaken assumption. I'm not an Eastern European and I don't like Ward. And I know many individuals who aren't Eastern Europeans that also dislike Andre Ward.

Why do people dislike Ward? Because of the following reasons:

1) He is a weak feather fisted puncher that has never scored a clean knockout in his entire career.

2) He is a constant fouler that consistently breaks the official rules of boxing in practically every bout against a top level opponent.

3) He is unwilling and has never fought a top level opponent outside of USA.


This is total contrast to someone like Roy Jones Jr or Mike Tyson who have abundance of fans from Eastern Europe and from other parts of the world, globally speaking.

Go and ask an average Russian boxing fan in Russia who their favorite boxer is. They would usually answer by saying either:

1) Mike Tyson

2) Roy Jones Jr

3) And sometimes Muhammad Ali


And it's because of their boxing style and actions. Very little to nothing to do with nationality.

Very few fans from Russia, Eastern Europe as a whole or from other parts of the world are going to remember Andre Ward as highly as Mike Tyson or Roy Jones Jr.

Andre Ward got to 182/183lbs to fight Kovalev, I believe working with Mackie Shieldstone.

The Kovalev fight was in June, with Ward formally walking away in September, so he's had anywhere from 4-7 months, when all he was doing was working with Mackie and being a professional (keeping the exercise going, not being reckless with what he puts in his body, etc). Ward's frame is what it is, so I figure he may be able to add another 10 pounds or so, but if he's solid it doesn't matter.

Roy Jones Jr gave up at least 30 pounds to John Ruiz in their fight, Evander Holyfield was likely the significantly smaller man in most of his fights at Heavyweight, and the list goes on.

If Andre Ward can physically get to a solid 205-215lbs, it won't matter what Usyk weighs because it'd still be heavyweight boxing; any one punch can change the course of the fight.

And it's utterly hilarious that you seem to honestly believe that Usyk drains himself 30 pounds to not have to fight at Heavyweight, lol. Keep dreaming

[Leonis]

Speak for yourself.

Andre "S.O.G." Ward is great for boxing in & out the ring!

The Son of Judges Referries and Commentators you mean. Headbuts low blows elbows and wrestling is all he is capable to do. Only wackos support this scumbug

[Andre_parker1]

ward vs the winner of the wbss tournament is okay..ward having a 5th baby now he thinking bout those taxes he gotta pay..time to work and make some more cash..mostly a cash move

[aboutfkntime]

Andre Ward is, right now, 200lbs, without any fight on the schedule (giving him more time to comfortably max out his frame).

Usyk has the height, but you're a put if you think that Usyk is going to have a giant size advantage (especially with Ward being 200lbs right now).

The only folks who hate on Andre Ward, are basically fans of the Eastern bloc, and that's without any real doubt, lol.

the tards hate him with a passion because of the " lil'G " thing

hilarious

[aboutfkntime]

And Oleksandr Usyk, by the time he finishes the cruiser weight tournament will be weighing over 220 pounds and already weighs between 215-220 pounds.

And if Ward currently weighs what you're claiming. Then you have to agree to one of the two options:

a) Either Andre Ward is naturally 200 pounds and has been a weight bully all this time when he was competing at super middleweight and light heavyweight against smaller sized opponents. Thus, his accomplishments are diminished and not as great as a result.

b) Or Andre Ward isn't naturally 200 pounds but is taking the time out to artificially reach that size through consuming artificial athletic performance enhancing chemicals (Performance enhancing drugs, human growth hormones, steroids and etc). Thus, his potential success is going to have asterisk over it again and will have lesser value than what he should have.



You're assuming Ward is the only one who is going to add weight. Usyk drains himself to make cruiser weight. He is a huge cruiser weight and if he was competing at heavyweight, then he would be weighing around 230 pounds. So Usyk still is going to have a huge weight advantage unless Ward can move up to heavyweight and weigh around the same weight as Usyk



That's your false / erroneous / mistaken assumption. I'm not an Eastern European and I don't like Ward. And I know many individuals who aren't Eastern Europeans that also dislike Andre Ward.

Why do people dislike Ward? Because of the following reasons:

1) He is a weak feather fisted puncher that has never scored a clean knockout in his entire career.

2) He is a constant fouler that consistently breaks the official rules of boxing in practically every bout against a top level opponent.

3) He is unwilling and has never fought a top level opponent outside of USA.


This is total contrast to someone like Roy Jones Jr or Mike Tyson who have abundance of fans from Eastern Europe and from other parts of the world, globally speaking.

Go and ask an average Russian boxing fan in Russia who their favorite boxer is. They would usually answer by saying either:

1) Mike Tyson

2) Roy Jones Jr

3) And sometimes Muhammad Ali


And it's because of their boxing style and actions. Very little to nothing to do with nationality.

Very few fans from Russia, Eastern Europe as a whole or from other parts of the world are going to remember Andre Ward as highly as Mike Tyson or Roy Jones Jr.

good god

and that dribble was " objectivity ", huh ?

[BattlingNelson]

If Usyk fights Ward in USA, then he is a ****** and he will deserve to lose if he does lose. One must learn from mistakes and he already should know what happened to Kovalev after Kovalev made this mistake.

Yeah it’s ****** if he wants to win. Money is the motivator here though if wards backers keeps bringing in ridiculous dough.