Comments Thread For: Spence: If Anybody Saw Flaws They Can Capitalize On - Call Al!

[FrankieClutch]

Talk that talk, Spence!

[Steven Mccowan]

First of all you and I both know ggg would never get more love fighting Canelo in Mexico period. Under zero circumstances is ggg going to be the fan favorite in Mexico over Canelo.

Contrary here in America you would have a lot of fans rooting for ggg over Ward, The Charlos, Mayweather, Wilder etc. Pacquiao fighitng in the Philipines will NEVER have his country rooting for an outsider I don't give a fuuck who it is.

Jeff Horn in Australia, could fight: Spence, Crawford, Pacquiao etc... Who the fuuck are the fans going to be rooting for?

There were alot of pac fans in crowd against horn. More than horn fans because he a superstar from,a third world country. They were happy as **** to have their own countryman score big upset. Canelo dont fight in mexico. I mean that says something on its own. He a huge mexican american draw though. And ggg still had lots of fans there and the boos were huge after cards were read. Ward kovalev fight had tons of ward fans cheering him on too. I mean maybe i have downplayed the race thing a bit. Im just a poor azz white boy and i dont think of fighters in terms of race. Its all about being entertained for me and the truly best man winning. For instance i was not rooting for algieri against spence lol. Because spence seems special and has killer instincts. But maybe you are right in some instances. But imo its a package of things.

[Larry the boss]

I don't get it?

thanks for the red k..no one praised Floyds win over Jmm as a top win like you want to with Rigo..It isnt even in his top 10 wins

[Michael1437]

Gotta appreciate Spence's enthusiasm to fight anyone.

[Sheldon312]

I don't get it?

You said Golovkin was going to make easy work of Canelo. It didn't happen. Look, Thurman and Spence is 50/50. I like both guys but you guys are making it seem like Spence is going to just run through Thurmam. He is not. Thurman is an elite fighter with a great boxing IQ. Thurman is not Peterson and he is not a weight drained Brook( I would've favoured Thurman against any version of Brook honestly) This will be a great fight when it happens and winner of this bout will be the best Welterweight of this generation.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

thanks for the red k..no one praised Floyds win over Jmm as a top win like you want to with Rigo..It isnt even in his top 10 wins

No problem buddy.
And I've never tried to make the Rigo fight bigger than what it was. I kept saying that you people wanted it, but now you're complaining. I'm talking about people in general. Can't have it both ways.

Let's do a little breakdown, shall we?
Mosley is such a great win for Floyd, right? You know, that Mosley that was coming off a 1.5 year lay off and was 38 years old! That is usually a top 10 win for Floyd. He was top 10 p4p doe...for what? Robert Guerrero was top 10 p4p when he fought Floyd. They just did that to build up the fight. It's for marketing purposes.

Or how about Canelo? I mean he was younger than Tank, who some don't want to see Loma fight, but Canelo was a great opponent for Floyd though, right? Canelo is a top 5 win for Floyd. Canelo also looked bad at the weigh-in. Or did he not? People like to trash other fighters for fighting at catchweights, but Floyd gets a pass for that most of the time. Before you say Floyd gets no credit for the Canelo win, then why is Canelo usually a top 5, or the very least top 10, win for Floyd in almost everyone's list?

How about Hatton who moved up from 140?
There was no problem there, right? Hatton is another top 10 win for Floyd. The only other time Hatton fought at 147 he didn't look great and a lot of people thought he lost.
Even if Marquez is not a to 10 win, he is a top 15 win. Or name 15 better wins for Floyd. Go ahead.
Berto, Maidana, Guerrero, Ortiz, Baldomir, Mitchell?
I just named most of Floyd's Welterweight resume. And some people want to argue that Floyd did more at Welterweight than Sugar Ray Leonard.

Answer me this. How was Diego Corrales, who in most people's opinion is Floyd's best win, ranked in the top 5 p4p going into the Floyd fight? His best wins going in were Robert Garcia, Gainer, and Angel Manfredy. That is a killer of a list, right? Some current fighters get questioned about their p4p legitimacy, but how did Diego get a pass?
If some modern fighter had a resume like that and was ranked top 5 p4p they would get destroyed!!!!
Floyd is TBE doe, right? Better than Ali. Better than SRR.

By the way, I didn't give you red k because of Loma. I'm a fan, but I try to be as honest as possible. Am I biased here and there? Sure, but who isn't?
I gave you red k because I noticed that you like to trash other fighters, modern or past, for things your boy Floyd did. By the way, I never had anyone make such a big deal out of getting red k lol.
You're a hypocrite, my dude.

I don't even have anything against Floyd or have you ever seen me in threads bashing him? But for as much as people think everybody is against Floyd, he was also allowed to get away with a lot.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

You said Golovkin was going to make easy work of Canelo. It didn't happen. Look, Thurman and Spence is 50/50. I like both guys but you guys are making it seem like Spence is going to just run through Thurmam. He is not. Thurman is an elite fighter with a great boxing IQ. Thurman is not Peterson and he is not a weight drained Brook( I would've favoured Thurman against any version of Brook honestly) This will be a great fight when it happens and winner of this bout will be the best Welterweight of this generation.

I don't remember saying that. I'm not a GGG nor a Canelo fan, so I honestly could care less.
I do remember saying that GGG was more skilled and I still believe that. More people will be studying GGG in the future than they will Canelo.
You might be confusing me with someone else, but if I did say that I probably forgot. I don't get into the GGG/Canelo arguments. I'm not a fan of either. Neither guy has an interesting style for me. I have said both are skillful guys and I even said Canelo has been one of the most improved fighters since I first watched him. I watched Canelo when he was being video taped from the audience. Way back then...
GGG is too slow for my liking, and he was much better when he was young and seems to have regressed; go check out some of his amateur fights. Canelo only fights in spurts, which I'm not a huge fan of.
Three of my three favorite fighters are probably the most active fighters inside the ring, the opposite of Canelo, currently in boxing. Loma, Usyk, and Spence.

I'm confident Spence will beat down Thurman. Not saying Thurman won't have his moments. He will early on, but Spence will get stronger as the fight goes on. Keith will slow down. It will not end well for Keith. Keith will do well against any other top Welterweight, but Spence is probably the worst style match-up for him.
We can make a point or perma ban when it gets signed.

[Larry the boss]

No problem buddy.
And I've never tried to make the Rigo fight bigger than what it was. I kept saying that you people wanted it, but now you're complaining. I'm talking about people in general. Can't have it both ways.

Let's do a little breakdown, shall we?
Mosley is such a great win for Floyd, right? You know, that Mosley that was coming off a 1.5 year lay off and was 38 years old! That is usually a top 10 win for Floyd. He was top 10 p4p doe...for what? Robert Guerrero was top 10 p4p when he fought Floyd. They just did that to build up the fight. It's for marketing purposes.

Or how about Canelo? I mean he was younger than Tank, who some don't want to see Loma fight, but Canelo was a great opponent for Floyd though, right? Canelo is a top 5 win for Floyd. Canelo also looked bad at the weigh-in. Or did he not? People like to trash other fighters for fighting at catchweights, but Floyd gets a pass for that most of the time. Before you say Floyd gets no credit for the Canelo win, then why is Canelo usually a top 5, or the very least top 10, win for Floyd in almost everyone's list?

How about Hatton who moved up from 140?
There was no problem there, right? Hatton is another top 10 win for Floyd. The only other time Hatton fought at 147 he didn't look great and a lot of people thought he lost.
Even if Marquez is not a to 10 win, he is a top 15 win. Or name 15 better wins for Floyd. Go ahead.
Berto, Maidana, Guerrero, Ortiz, Baldomir, Mitchell?
I just named most of Floyd's Welterweight resume. And some people want to argue that Floyd did more at Welterweight than Sugar Ray Leonard.

Answer me this. How was Diego Corrales, who in most people's opinion is Floyd's best win, ranked in the top 5 p4p going into the Floyd fight? His best wins going in were Robert Garcia, Gainer, and Angel Manfredy. That is a killer of a list, right? Some current fighters get questioned about their p4p legitimacy, but how did Diego get a pass?
If some modern fighter had a resume like that and was ranked top 5 p4p they would get destroyed!!!!
Floyd is TBE doe, right? Better than Ali. Better than SRR.

By the way, I didn't give you red k because of Loma. I'm a fan, but I try to be as honest as possible. Am I biased here and there? Sure, but who isn't?
I gave you red k because I noticed that you like to trash other fighters, modern or past, for things your boy Floyd did. By the way, I never had anyone make such a big deal out of getting red k lol.
You're a hypocrite, my dude.

I don't even have anything against Floyd or have you ever seen me in threads bashing him? But for as much as people think everybody is against Floyd, he was also allowed to get away with a lot.

If none of those wins are good for Floyd then I guess Loma's resume is straight assh0le..lol

[Sweet_Science2]

There were alot of pac fans in crowd against horn. More than horn fans because he a superstar from,a third world country. They were happy as **** to have their own countryman score big upset. Canelo dont fight in mexico. I mean that says something on its own. He a huge mexican american draw though. And ggg still had lots of fans there and the boos were huge after cards were read. Ward kovalev fight had tons of ward fans cheering him on too. I mean maybe i have downplayed the race thing a bit. Im just a poor azz white boy and i dont think of fighters in terms of race. Its all about being entertained for me and the truly best man winning. For instance i was not rooting for algieri against spence lol. Because spence seems special and has killer instincts. But maybe you are right in some instances. But imo its a package of things.

I respect your opinion. I actually believe you when you say how you feel. So thanks for the respectful input that is refreshing on here. And you do make some good points although I have my beliefs. I do respect your opinion.

[Steven Mccowan]

I respect your opinion. I actually believe you when you say how you feel. So thanks for the respectful input that is refreshing on here. And you do make some good points although I have my beliefs. I do respect your opinion.

I feel the same about you. Been good to talk to you. Peace out my friend