Spence and The Truth About The Welterweight Division

[siablo14]

Agree with the first paragraph

But I don't think Thurmans stocks dropped at all. Some Hardcore fans might act like their on their menstrual cycle and b.itch and moan and complain and convince themselves that Thurmans ducking Spence because Errol is the new fighter everyone's d.ickriding

But the reality is in the last 3 years Thurman has beat the best guys at WW and is involved in the highest or second most watched fight every year. When the Spence fight happens the trend will continue

It's the way boxing works when your the top dog and Keith is, you don't acknowledge the guys below you.

Gotta agree there. Thurman gave us good fights.

[R_Walken]

Thurman's not a superstar like Canelo, so it's not like he has a gigantic casual fanbase. Besides, how do you know that a lot of those "nobodies on the internet" are just some hardcore fans? Odds are, you don't.


Thurman wasn't even being vague about not wanting to fight Spence. He straight up said that he's not ready, and would fight him in 2019, which we don't know if he's serious about.


But, he had no problem calling out Jeff Horn doe. Spence is the only important welterweight he doesn't want to see in the ring. Looks more like Thurman doesn't wanna take the risk. You wanna know what that's called? Ducking.


Thurman's excuses didn't even make any sense. He said that he has obligations. What obligations? He's the super champion under the WBA, so he doesn't have to fight any mandatories there. The WBC isn't a stickler for world champion responsibilities like the IBF, and unifications usually trump mandatories anyways, so he doesn't have to fight Porter before Spence. Both Thurman and Spence are not superstars, so how much more money would they get in 2019, that would make this delay worth it? Why are you trying to make excuses for Thurman, when he already laid out his own? Thurman's fighting a hungry prime Vargas coming off of an injury and layoff, so what if he loses to him? How can he be sure that he'll keep winning, when he's taking hard fights before even getting the chance to figure out a deal with Spence? If he loses, his whole plan goes out the window, so what'll he do if he does? The more experience Spence gains, the harder it's gonna be for Thurman to pull off a victory on him.


Thurman sounded more like someone who doesn't care if their stock dropped. It's not like it dropped significantly, he's just getting clowned over that sus interview.

Don't be one of those loser f.agots that use the word ducking especially if they both keep winning it's obvious the fight will be made. Just because you don't get it when you want means nothing. Keep the tears

You proved my point saying Thurman wasn't well known like Canelo so most likely the comments come from young hardcore boxing fans who % wise are probably the most negative loser fanbases in all of sports . Obviously I don't know for sure but odds are most of the people negatively commenting a Keith Thurman video are f.ucking lame nobodies. YouTube is a place for pond scum to write their loser opinions. Check out any video there will be negative comments wrote whether it's Mither Theresa , Martin Luther King or Keith Thurman

It's probably not a $ thing, it's probably a Thurman injured thing And a people who actually decide when they'll fight told Thurman it'll go down in 2019 thing because when it goes down Thurman is going to have to walk through hell if he wants those 3 straps

[Motorcity Cobra]

You have a point. But at least he unified. Yeah, now he should fight Spence in 2018, not 2019.

Anyway, you didn't use to blame this way the MWs when they were avoiding Golovkin.

I'm not blaming Thurman for not fighting Spence. I'm pointing out his hypocrisy & how he's trying to be Floyd but hasn't put in the work to be Floyd & squandered his opportunity. Read some of my other posts where I said Spence should move up next year if Thurman still on that BS. The same way i was saying GGG should move up. I even said Thurman ain't getting past Vargas.

[Slicc]

Don't be one of those loser f.agots that use the word ducking especially if they both keep winning it's obvious the fight will be made. Just because you don't get it when you want means nothing. Keep the tears

You don't have to be a loser or gay to point out the truth. If a fighter calls everyone out besides one guy, then what do you call it? If we're going off of what Thurman said in that interview, what else could it be? It's not that I'm not getting it when I want it, it's that Thurman's reasons for waiting until 2019 don't make any sense. I have tears to keep? But you're the one who got offended in the first place.

You proved my point saying Thurman wasn't well known like Canelo so most likely the comments come from young hardcore boxing fans who % wise are probably the most negative loser fanbases in all of sports .
Obviously I don't know for sure but odds are most of the people negatively commenting a Keith Thurman video are f.ucking lame nobodies.

Just because he doesn't have a gigantic casual fanbase, doesn't mean he has none. Plus, those "negative losers" are simply calling out Thurman for his bullshit. Stop acting like Thurman can do no wrong, and understand that anyone can be subject to criticism.

YouTube is a place for pond scum to write their loser opinions. Check out any video there will be negative comments wrote whether it's Mither Theresa , Martin Luther King or Keith Thurman

Of course there are assholes, welcome to the internet. However, those negative users have a point when it comes to Thurman. He's avoiding Spence, and came up with nonsensical excuses.

It's probably not a $ thing, it's probably a Thurman injured thing And a people who actually decide when they'll fight told Thurman it'll go down in 2019 thing because when it goes down Thurman is going to have to walk through hell if he wants those 3 straps

Honestly, Thurman is acting sus about that injury. Why would you fight Jessie Vargas coming off an injury and layoff? Doesn't Thurman know he can very well lose that fight? Last time I checked, the fighter is the one who has the final say in who they fight. Managers are supposed to work for the fighters.

[FLY TY]

You don't have to be a loser or gay to point out the truth. If a fighter calls everyone out besides one guy, then what do you call it? If we're going off of what Thurman said in that interview, what else could it be? It's not that I'm not getting it when I want it, it's that Thurman's reasons for waiting until 2019 don't make any sense. I have tears to keep? But you're the one who got offended in the first place.


Just because he doesn't have a gigantic casual fanbase, doesn't mean he has none. Plus, those "negative losers" are simply calling out Thurman for his bullshit. Stop acting like Thurman can do no wrong, and understand that anyone can be subject to criticism.


Of course there are assholes, welcome to the internet. However, those negative users have a point when it comes to Thurman. He's avoiding Spence, and came up with nonsensical excuses.


Honestly, Thurman is acting sus about that injury. Why would you fight Jessie Vargas coming off an injury and layoff? Doesn't Thurman know he can very well lose that fight? Last time I checked, the fighter is the one who has the final say in who they fight. Managers are supposed to work for the fighters.

He's had excuses since '15....

[R_Walken]

You don't have to be a loser or gay to point out the truth. If a fighter calls everyone out besides one guy, then what do you call it? If we're going off of what Thurman said in that interview, what else could it be? It's not that I'm not getting it when I want it, it's that Thurman's reasons for waiting until 2019 don't make any sense. I have tears to keep? But you're the one who got offended in the first place.


Just because he doesn't have a gigantic casual fanbase, doesn't mean he has none. Plus, those "negative losers" are simply calling out Thurman for his bullshit. Stop acting like Thurman can do no wrong, and understand that anyone can be subject to criticism.


Of course there are assholes, welcome to the internet. However, those negative users have a point when it comes to Thurman. He's avoiding Spence, and came up with nonsensical excuses.


Honestly, Thurman is acting sus about that injury. Why would you fight Jessie Vargas coming off an injury and layoff? Doesn't Thurman know he can very well lose that fight? Last time I checked, the fighter is the one who has the final say in who they fight. Managers are supposed to work for the fighters.

I call fans loser f.agots and other derogatory terms because they mostly fuel their opinion off emotions from the last week or so, they mostly jump on whatever narrative fits their negativity without looking at the entire picture and being honest with themselves

Thurman isnt going to fight Spence after coming back from a injury yup he's ducking even though he's proven he'll fight anyone and 3 years ago he was the one being "ducked"If both keep winning and healthy and the fight doesn't happen by the end of 2019 there might be something to it but untill then Thurman isn't ducking anyone he hasn't even had the opportunity to duck yet


How can Thurman duck Spence when it's obvious that if they keep winning they're on a collision course to fight since Mayweather left the sport Haymons plan has been to crown a new #1 WW for the last 3 years . Now we have 2 guys left , But now Thurman is going to duck the last remaining fight to get him the crown seems unlikely

it sounds ****** especially when Thurmans proved he's more then willing to fight the best in the division , the reality is it's just impatient fans wanting a fight that'll happen in a year or so to call it a duck is loser sh:it

The same fans were crying about Canelo ducking GGg, Garcia ducking Thurman and guess what the fights got made maybe not when fans demanded and cried about it but it got done this is no different

your going to question the severity of Keith's injury ? I bet you were the same questioning his injury before the Porter fight as a reason he was"ducking "Porter. Do you have any proof or just basing your opinion off emotion? I'm guessing emotion

Thurman should be getting props for coming back from a long layoff and fighting Vargas(top 10 WW ) and it not be some scrub. Spence will be thurmans biggest test to date is it not a fair expectation for him to be healthy and at his best before Spence : Thurman happens. It will leave out any room for excuses

Im sure Haymon controlls when that fight will happen regardless of what Thurman or Spence want and every indication is it happens in the first 1/4 of 2019.

So until then relax change your tampon and concentrate on the dope fights that are confirmed for the next couple months like Dorticos / gassiev , Groves / Eubank , wilder / Ortiz , AJ / Parker , Valdez / Quigg , ,Estrada / Rungsai Frampton / Donaire and most likely. Lara / Hurd , Canelo / Ggg , Mares / LSC , Adonis / Jack

[D4thincarnation]

It's like the only big fighter at 147 who might fight Spence soon, is Crawford after he wins the WBO title. Keith "Sometimes" Thurman will call him out in 2019, Shawn "Go Time" Porter's hiding under Thurman's WBC belt, Snackuiao's trying to fight Lomachenko, and Danny "Gift" Garcia's putting in work on the cherry orchard.

All jokes aside, Spence is big at 147, so he might have to move up if he can't get a big fight. I think his latest match might've hurt his chances even more.

Maybe Thurman should announce his retirement, do some dancing with the stars maybe some wrestling then come back to boxing once Spence moves up?

[Scipio2009]

Spence was hyping another date within hours of beating Peterson.

Fight date announced reaaaaal soon‼️ 😁

— Errol Spence (@ErrolSpenceJr) January 21, 2018

I'm hoping we see him sooner than June & vs someone better than the Devon vs Victor winner.

Whats Porter got going on? Or in talks to do? Is he just waiting on Thurman?

I'm definitely of the opinion that Thurman has hurt his Q score by not fighting much (don't matter the reason) so Thurman needs to quit playing or he'll be begging Spence for a catchweight fight at 150 once Spence does leave 147 & catches the fire many of us suspect he'll catch sooner or later.

Shawn Porter wants no part of Erroll Spence Jr, especially not before he gets a second shot at Keith Thurman (Showtime made mention of Porter going through his own injury, while also pegging him for a Spring fight too).

[Larry the boss]

He will be a 154 soon, what fights would you like to see him in there?

[Slicc]

I call fans loser f.agots and other derogatory terms because they mostly fuel their opinion off emotions from the last week or so, they mostly jump on whatever narrative fits their negativity without looking at the entire picture and being honest with themselves

What narrative? Thurman straight up said he's not ready, and lied about being obligated to fight Porter. All of that came from Thurman's mouth.

Thurman isnt going to fight Spence after coming back from a injury yup he's ducking even though he's proven he'll fight anyone and 3 years ago he was the one being "ducked"If both keep winning and healthy and the fight doesn't happen by the end of 2019 there might be something to it but untill then Thurman isn't ducking anyone he hasn't even had the opportunity to duck yet

Nobody's asking Thurman to fight Spence right now. Just don't expect fans to accept those lies and excuses. There's no guarantee that they'll both continue winning. What'll Thurman do if loses before he can face Spence?

How can Thurman duck Spence when it's obvious that if they keep winning they're on a collision course to fight since Mayweather left the sport Haymons plan has been to crown a new #1 WW for the last 3 years . Now we have 2 guys left , But now Thurman is going to duck the last remaining fight to get him the crown seems unlikely

Thurman's ducking Spence, because he has no good reason to delay the fight until 2019. Again, his excuses didn't make any sense.

it sounds ****** especially when Thurmans proved he's more then willing to fight the best in the division , the reality is it's just impatient fans wanting a fight that'll happen in a year or so to call it a duck is loser sh:it

Thurman proved that he's willing to fight everyone except Spence. He has no issues fighting Porter, a guy he already beat, and Jeff Horn the paper champ, but when it comes to Spence, all of a sudden he has a million and one excuses.

The same fans were crying about Canelo ducking GGg, Garcia ducking Thurman and guess what the fights got made maybe not when fans demanded and cried about it but it got done this is no different

Canelo dropped his belt, just so he wouldn't have to fight GGG. Garcia didn't fight any decent welterweights before Thurman, and was definitely not eager to make that fight happen. Stop crying about people telling it like it is.

your going to question the severity of Keith's injury ? I bet you were the same questioning his injury before the Porter fight as a reason he was"ducking "Porter. Do you have any proof or just basing your opinion off emotion? I'm guessing emotion

What fighter, in their right mind, would fight a prime ex-champion coming off of an injury and layoff? If Thurman's injury was so severe, why didn't he take an actual tune-up?