Is Deontay Wilder proving that skills do not matter in HW division

[mlac]

He was being schooled by a polak football hooligan and a NFL player. he walks back in straight lines with his hands in the air and his punches make him fall over, if you think Wilder is 'skilled' then i don't know what to tell you.

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He's held a title for a while but let's be honest he still has the resume of an "up and comer". He isn't the measuring stick of the division.

Yeah I do think it's possible to beat the likes of Stiverne & Molina just relying on power and size.

[GhostofDempsey]

Ali isn't large HW by modern standarts... 6'3 & 210-215 lbs.

Very small HW or even Cruiserweight by modern boxing standarts.

Obviously I was talking about the era he fought in.

[Sheldon312]

Not Ortiz or Parker.

They aren't very skilled fighters, especially Ortiz who mainly relay on his SP stance.

Joseph is faster, has better balance, and better overall fundamentals compared to Wilder. Ortiz is a great south paw who can counter and cut off the ring. Both are much more skilled than Wilder

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If you think Foreman wasn't skilled you don't know what you're watching. All Wilder is proving is that the division is weak.

This is the weakest and least skilled the division has ever been. None of the champions are highly skilled fighters, they’re barely skilled fighters tbh

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

1) Weight, size, punching power and physical strength usually plays the most significant factor in deciding boxing bouts in the modern heavyweight division. This is based on the fact that in the last 2 decades, the best heavyweights and the most dominant heavyweights have been the most powerful punchers, the physically strongest boxers and the heaviest boxers (who outweighed most of their opponents). Even if there are slight disadvantages in skills compared to some lighter boxers, the strongest and most powerful heavyweights can overcome their slight disadvantages in skills using their superior physical strength, punching power and weight.

2) However, an extremely skilled lighter / smaller sized boxer who's boxing skills are far greater than a bigger sized heavyweight's weight advantages or power advantages, can overcome their lack of size and punching power by imposing their superior boxing skills. But they will need to have a significant advantage in skills, to the point where if the heavier boxer is 2x more powerful in punching power, they will have to be more than 2x more skilled than the heavier and more powerful boxer.

3) A boxer who is skilled + has punching power, size (weight) and physical strength is most likely going to defeat a boxer who only has one of those attributes.

So in conclusion:

1) If a boxer has significantly greater punching power than his opponents, and has significantly greater physical strength than his opponents and is significantly bigger than his opponents in size. That boxer doesn't have to be too skilled and can overcome his lack of skills by using those aforementioned advantages.

2) If a boxer has significant advantages in boxing skills over his opponents. Then that boxer doesn't need to be too big in size, or require too much punching power since they can make up for the lack of those abilities using their advantages in boxing skills.

1) Do you actually think people read all this nonsense???😂
2) You must have so much time on your hands to sit around typing nonsense all day.

In conclusion:
1) Get a life.

[Ray*]

He does have skill doe, he knows how to place his punch to maximise the effect. Yes he is very clumsy especially when he does that robotic windmill but i wouldn't let that fool me necessarily.

[McNulty]

Wilder is very highly skilled, just his flaws are pretty bad so they make the entire package look like shít. I'm NOT a Wilder fan.

[juggernaut666]

This is the weakest and least skilled the division has ever been. None of the champions are highly skilled fighters, they’re barely skilled fighters tbh

Clueless as usual !

The HW division is the youngest its EVER been with most guys not even in their FULL prime yet . Wilder probably is the only prime guy in the top 10 .


1 .Joshua . Age 28 ,only 20 fights has already unified undefeated .

2 .Wilder . 39 Wins 38 K.OS In his prime undefeated .

3 .Ortiz . Age ?????? A slightly past prime but a solid 6'4 240 undefeated southpaw .

4. Povetkin . Highly durable experienced great resume , hard puncher not lost since Klitchko and its his only loss .

5 . Parker . Age 26 with only 24 fights . Also undefeated .Hes at least 5 fights from his potential .

6. Tyson Fury . A 6'9 awkward style also undefeated in his prime .

7 . Whyte . Another awkward fighter at 6'4 250 . Only loss to Joshua and is on a 6 fight win streak . Only has 23 fights and not in prime yet either .

8. Pulev . A 6'5 250 pound tricky fighter with extensive amateur backround also only loss to Klitchko .

9 . Breazeale . A 6'7 250 plus pounder ,highly durable with a 90% K.O percentage ,only loss to Joshua . Only has 20 fights not in his prime either .

10 . Miller . Another undefeated 6'4 SHW at 260 plus . Not in prime either at 21 fights with 18 K.Os .

These are top 10 guys .

FIVE are undefeated .

All fighters combined have only produced FOUR losses .

Out of these guys FIVE arent even the finished article .



Other fighters .

1 . Daniel Dubois . Top prospect with all K.Os

2. Vlad Sirenko . Trained under Ali Bashir (team Klitchko ) will make a huge dent in the HW division .

3. Nathan Gormon. Undefeated under Ricky Hatton ,extensive amateur backround .

4 . Izu Ugonoh . Parker stable mate only loss to Breazeale with only 17 fights . hes still a live dog .

5 . Joe Joyce . Olympic stand out under David Haye (also still lurking) who will crack the top 10 sooner than later .


I'll stop here even though i can keep going and in more details but i know it would be a waste of time for obvious reasons .


YOU DONT GET A WEAK ERA IF ITS COMPETITIVE OR IF THERE IS AN OVERLY DOMINANT CHAMPION (MOST OF THE TIME ) !

YOU DONT GET A WEAK ERA WHEN THE ERA ITSELF IS STILL GROWING !

[Luilun]

Wilder is lucky there's no fighter who fights like Tyson slipping punches and going to the body and keeping the inside game. Most heavyweights are lazy they stand straight up with no bending of the knees. To beat a taller guy you have to bend the knees and get low why do you think Marciano did that ?