Is Deontay Wilder proving that skills do not matter in HW division

[jmrf4435]

It's interesting.

I think it's true to some extent. But the issue is that when a heavyweight does have some skill with the power they tend to dominate the division.

Look at wlad. He had a really good jab for years and that was almost enough to win and defend several belts

[Robbie Barrett]

If you think Foreman wasn't skilled you don't know what you're watching. All Wilder is proving is that the division is weak.

[Robbie Barrett]

It's interesting.

I think it's true to some extent. But the issue is that when a heavyweight does have some skill with the power they tend to dominate the division.

Look at wlad. He had a really good jab for years and that was almost enough to win and defend several belts

Don't forget his holding and reach. Not much a smaller fighter can do when he gets tied up every time he gets in range.

[Sheldon312]

If you think Foreman wasn't skilled you don't know what you're watching. All Wilder is proving is that the division is weak.

Foreman had skills but there are ten heavyweights who were more skilled than him. I'm just saying that Wilder is probably changing the way we view boxing. He telegraphs his punches and he is very wild, yet he keeps winning for some reason

[Outwest Exp 355]

He was getting out boxed in Washington fight

He was coming off of a bicep surgery and a broken right hand. He was a little reluctant early on in the fight and he gave up some early rounds. But he was never in any real danger in the Washington fight. In fact the first right hand he threw ended the fight.

[jmrf4435]

Don't forget his holding and reach. Not much a smaller fighter can do when he gets tied up every time he gets in range.

Before wlad-Fury I didn't think much of Wlads career long height advantage..

Then I saw how confused he looked at the slightly taller Fury. He really didn't like the angle the punches were coming from, above

[club fighter]

This is a point that I mentioned in another thread. As a USA boxing fan, I pull for DW but I don't hold back in saying he's not the most polished heavy out there. In fact early in his career my friend was all on his jock while I was telling him that Wilder needs to develop his skills.

The proof will be in the pudding when AJ & DW get together because I think AJ has put more into developing his fundamentals and he has showed me that he can make adjustments during a fight, which a lot of fighters can't do. Now if they meet and DW KOs his azz, it will really open the door for the argument that pure speed and power can negate ring generalship and skills. It's the edge DW has over AJ in my view.

Now if JP upsets AJ in March that might blow my chances of seeing what will prevail.

*Wilder said "all you need is power" ??? ........ I think he's holding back on the other half of the equation, speed.
SPEED BEATS POWER

[Elroy The Great]

when youre elusive and able to knock a guy out, maybe dude has some skill or maybe the competition is shlt.

[BillyBoxing]

Fury, Joshua, Parker, and Ortiz are head and shoulders above Wilder. To put it bluntly Wilder is a bigger, faster, more powerful version of Indongo

Not Ortiz or Parker.

They aren't very skilled fighters, especially Ortiz who mainly relay on his SP stance.

[RussB23]

Hes only saying this **** because he hasnt actually fought anyone good. When he actually faces someone with skills he will look like a deer in headlights. Luis Ortiz might be that guy but hes old af and has high blood pressure.