Comments Thread For: Hearn Offers Alexander Povetkin Slot On Joshua vs. Parker Card

[Sun_Tzu]

Either would be a good watch, my gut tells me a motivated Chisora gives Povetkin a better fight.

[Sid-Knee]

You're either a hater or know nothing about this industry. Wilder is American. Parker is from New Zealand. Wilder has the most recognized belt. Parker has the least recognized belt. AJ-Parker isn't a full unification. AJ-Wilder would crown the first undisputed champion since 1999 and the first four belt world heavyweight champion in history. AJ-Wilder is definitely the bigger fight.




I said the PPV would do respectable numbers. Had the fight been in March, it wouldn't have been ready for PPV (and it wouldn't have been for the undisputed title).

But a couple more fights each? And they meet in November on PPV for the undisputed title? They'll easily do a few hundred thousand PPV buys in the US, if not half a million. You're underestimating just how much mainstream media coverage this fight would get. Undefeated vs Undefeated for the undisputed title? And an American is one of the fighters? It will be treated as a massive mainstream sporting event.

So being rational is equal to being a hater? You Wilder fans are so deluded it's impossible.

Wait, what are you saying about Wilder having the most recognized title?? Hahahaha All 4 belts have the same worth for me. No title is better than the other. But if you want to stick to that like it has any sort of value, then that's on you. Haha. You people...

Who gives a **** if it's for undisputed or not? Wilder has never sold a single PPV in his life. Ward got millions to watch when he was on free TV, but when it came to PPV, it flopped. That was also for all the titles baring the WBC.

Not a single guarantee is given by you other than what you hope it will be. If people cared about Wilder they would have put his fight against Ortiz on PPV, but they haven't. Because they know it would flop.

I'll leave you with your fantasy's...

[DaaamnSon]

He's also the WBO mandatory. Which if we're going to keep these heavyweight titles in tact, unified mandatories are needed as often as possible.

In that case it makes sense to do the Povetkin fight after Parker and have the Wilder fight near the end of the year.

Wilder needs more of a profile to marinate the fight.

[sportbuddha]

Yeah hes WBA mandatory. Its what they wanted Wilder to do with Whyte, come over knock out a Brit and make the Joshua fight bigger. Povetkin gets it.

Okay makes a lot of sense, gives Povetkin a bit of profile to sell the next fight. Also, not a bad mandatory challenge fight, not a low level stay busy, I'm happy to see this one.

[N/A]

So being rational is equal to being a hater?

You're not being rational if you believe the Parker fight is as big as the Wilder fight. Parker has 150k followers on instagram. Wilder has 600k. Wilder is definitely a bigger star than Parker and brings a bigger market to the table.

Wait, what are you saying about Wilder having the most recognized title?? Hahahaha All 4 belts have the same worth for me.

"To you" doesn't matter. The marketplace disagrees with you. A WBC belt is more valuable than a WBO belt. Maybe not "to you," but to the general public, to TV networks, to promoters, to fighters, etc. This is very clearly shown by the purse bids generated by each organization. Even Eddie Hearn has admitted many times publicly that the WBC belt is the most prestigious in boxing. He knows very well it adds more value to a fighter than a WBO belt.

Who gives a **** if it's for undisputed or not?

The general public, the media, the networks. Maybe the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world isn't a big deal "to you," but to the world, it's a very very big deal.

[Sid-Knee]

You're not being rational if you believe the Parker fight is as big as the Wilder fight. Parker has 150k followers on instagram. Wilder has 600k. Wilder is definitely a bigger star than Parker and brings a bigger market to the table.




"To you" doesn't matter. The marketplace disagrees with you. A WBC belt is more valuable than a WBO belt. Maybe not "to you," but to the general public, to TV networks, to promoters, to fighters, etc. This is very clearly shown by the purse bids generated by each organization. Even Eddie Hearn has admitted many times publicly that the WBC belt is the most prestigious in boxing. He knows very well it adds more value to a fighter than a WBO belt.




The general public, the media, the networks. Maybe the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world isn't a big deal "to you," but to the world, it's a very very big deal.

Wilder is the bigger star yet gets paid less money on average for his fights.

Yeah, Wilder wouldn't be getting the same attention if he had the WBO belt. Yeah, sure thing. Haha.

Oh it's great to be undisputed, but that doesn't mean you're going to sell PPV's.

Where are these guarantees? So you still have nothing? Oh right.

[Randall Cunning]

Okay makes a lot of sense, gives Povetkin a bit of profile to sell the next fight. Also, not a bad mandatory challenge fight, not a low level stay busy, I'm happy to see this one.

Yeah, provided Joshua keeps winning youve got 2 years of good fights that can be made

Parker
Povetkin
Wilder
Miller/Pulev
Fury

[sportbuddha]

Yeah, provided Joshua keeps winning youve got 2 years of good fights that can be made

Parker
Povetkin
Wilder
Miller/Pulev
Fury

Agreed on all, except I'm in the camp that believes we won't see Tyson back in the ring again, at least not for more than one fight

[Randall Cunning]

Agreed on all, except I'm in the camp that believes we won't see Tyson back in the ring again, at least not for more than one fight

Yeah thats why I put him last lol. I noticed though Warrens got the 02 for Flanagans next fight, 14th April. Saunders supposed to be on there aswell, but them 2 is a Copper Box card. This gotta be the card for Furys return.

[N/A]

Wilder is the bigger star yet gets paid less money on average for his fights.

You have no idea what Wilder gets paid. Purses filed with the commission are often heavily manipulated to minimize tax and sanctioning fee liabilities.

Yeah, Wilder wouldn't be getting the same attention if he had the WBO belt. Yeah, sure thing. Haha.

Laugh all you want. If you had even a basic understanding of this industry, you would know the WBO belt is the least valuable in the marketplace. If Parker had been WBC champion instead of WBO champion, his fights would be on TV instead of youtube. The WBO is technically a world title now, but the marketplace still doesn't view it as an equal.

Oh it's great to be undisputed, but that doesn't mean you're going to sell PPV's.

If Wilder & Joshua fight at the end of this year for the undisputed title, you don't think they'll do over 300,000 US buys?